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Danielle Bullen Hi fellow Brazen-ers! Moxy Mag is looking to profile a woman working in an entry-level job in advertising or publishing. Could it be you? Email daniellerbullen@gmail.com if you'd like to be considered.

2 weeks ago from GenYChat, Career Rocketeer, Professional Writers and Editors, Young Professional Women (YPW) and u30pro3 more

 
Chanelle Schneider The last topic in this month's series is Sustaining Your Business on Wednesday at 9pm ET with @KathyZucker

13 weeks ago from GenYChat

 
Chanelle Schneider created the group GenYChat

102 weeks ago

 
Al Smith, III Got your eye on the next promotion??? Follow these 3 steps to snag that role and hit the ground running!! http://wp.me/p1Xny9-x

25 weeks ago from GenYChat

 
Brett Kunsch If 80% of success is showing up, then the other 20% is finishing. Last month I "showed up" to write a blog post, but then I didn't finish it (I was so sick that it caused me to miss my honeymoon - no joke). Just today, I went into my drafts folder and said "I'm finishing this post!" It felt pretty awesome. How do you ensure you not only show up, but also FINISH? http://bit.ly/gBCIsv

65 weeks ago from Gen-Y Professional Bloggers, Wordpress Bloggers, GenYChat, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals and Personal Development3 more

Scott Cofer: Brett ... with regards to blogging, the best advice I ever received (which I intend to start following right away) is to create a posting schedule ...MoreBrett ... with regards to blogging, the best advice I ever received (which I intend to start following right away) is to create a posting schedule ... ideally Mondays and/or Thursdays. For me, that means spending 30-45 minutes per day creating a post with excellent content, then posting it Monday morning. Deadlines work!
26 weeks ago
Edward Antrobus: I see the issue as a matter of intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation. I work better with extrinsic motivation. I don't mean it exactly in the common ...MoreI see the issue as a matter of intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation. I work better with extrinsic motivation. I don't mean it exactly in the common terms of "warm, fuzzy feeling of accomplishment" vs external reward. Maybe because at my heart I'm a people pleaser, but I work best when somebody else is depending on me to get the job done. I'd probably be a much better blogger if someone was paying me to do it!
26 weeks ago
 
Al Smith, III BOOK RESEARCH: Please take 5 min. survey on Gen X/Y career advancement strategies... https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CareerAnatomy. Please post to Facebook/Twitter. I'm working on an important project and am on the hunt for quality DATA!!! I am 29 and have a very successful career, however many of my coworkers and peers can't say the same thing. I want to figure out what our generation is doing to get ahead and share that with everyone.

32 weeks ago from GenYChat

 
Chanelle Schneider For more discussion look up #GenYChat on Twitter :-)

43 weeks ago from GenYChat

 
Ryan Healy What do you guys think, does Gen Y not know how to be part of a team like this article suggests? http://bit.ly/rumGeF

45 weeks ago from GenYChat, Personal Branding and Personal Development1 more

Megan Atkinson: @Beth, I definitely agree that there is a lot to be learned and taught from cross-generation friction and energy. I think that's what's missing ...More@Beth, I definitely agree that there is a lot to be learned and taught from cross-generation friction and energy. I think that's what's missing out there in the generational commentary like the post linked - the mutual learning opportunity.
44 weeks ago
Diana Antholis: People always need something to complain about. Managers are saying that newcomers to the office don't know what they're doing. So why don't ...MorePeople always need something to complain about. Managers are saying that newcomers to the office don't know what they're doing. So why don't those managers teach them? Train them? Do something about it?! Those same managers need to learn how to effectively deal with their employees. Instead of complaining they don't know how to be part of a team, why don't they show them?
It's a big transition - going from school, being nurtured, etc. to working with people who all think they are right. Everyone has different personalities...there are MANY older people who do not like working in teams. It's a personality thing, not a generation thing. But someone needs to blame someone, so the earliest generation in the workforce gets blamed and stereotyped. Typical.

44 weeks ago
 
Brett Kunsch Richard Florida writes: "It's a mantra of the age of globalization that where we live doesn't matter...It doesn't make a difference as long as we have wireless and a cell phone. It's a compelling notion, but it's wrong." After reading some insights from his book { http://bit.ly/mqQUk4 }, I began to wonder: Could it be that choosing where to live is the most important decision of your life?

54 weeks ago from Location Independent, Entrepreneurs, GenYChat, Ask Penelope Trunk! and Creating a Life You Love3 more

JRandom42: Looking at the responses, I guess I'm a little surprised at how many of you put great emphasis on being located close to family.

I guess I'm an ...More
Looking at the responses, I guess I'm a little surprised at how many of you put great emphasis on being located close to family.

I guess I'm an anomaly, because I wanted to go and carve out my own niche through my own efforts, away from the considerable shadow of my family, where, no matter how much I achieved, I'd always be known as "my father's son", or "my mother's son".


53 weeks ago
beatriz r machado: I would expand it: we all seek for a better quality of life so, yes it is one of the most important decisions but, in my case, my job only works ...MoreI would expand it: we all seek for a better quality of life so, yes it is one of the most important decisions but, in my case, my job only works if fits where I live. So, 20 minutes away to where my life is is the maximum for me. Same goes for kids school. I dont wana waist my precious time on commuting.'Bu as someone says above - it is all related to your circunstances.

53 weeks ago
 
Brett Kunsch Do you feel there is a disconnect between seniority and meritocracy in the workplace? I hear millennials with very good (and implementable) ideas being ignored because they're perceived as not being "senior" enough to be taken seriously. I'm of the belief that it does not matter where the idea comes from - it's the IDEA itself that matters. What have been your experiences?

60 weeks ago from Job Resources and Career Coaching, I am Gen Y, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals, GenYChat and Professional Development3 more

Rebecca Thorman: I think a lot of young workers have ideas but miss laying out how they will execute it. I've never been turned down when I lay out all the steps ...MoreI think a lot of young workers have ideas but miss laying out how they will execute it. I've never been turned down when I lay out all the steps and how something will work. You can't just throw ideas out willy nilly. If you care about something, show how it will be successful.
60 weeks ago
Brett Kunsch: Thanks for the feedback guys - it's helpful to hear these measured responses to the "idea discrimination" topic rather than give in to the ...MoreThanks for the feedback guys - it's helpful to hear these measured responses to the "idea discrimination" topic rather than give in to the temptation that all senior members want to keep the young worker down. You've highlighted the shades of gray in the debate.

@Dave - The law firm example is much more than ignoring a good idea - taking on a huge case like that is a full-time responsibility that definitely would require the senior lawyer. You make a good distinction between the small company versus the larger company (which usually has a bit more red tape to cut through). And ultimately, it DOES depend on the nature of the culture at either.

@JR - I agree that young workers can have tunnel-vision and convince themselves of their "fool-proof" idea, but the ones that prepare a good SWOT analysis and run it through some critical tests should be given an opportunity to take ownership of it IF it is implementable.

@Rebecca - Good ideas are easy to just write down and talk about - no argument there. I failed to clearly say it, but here I'm talking about millennials' ideas + the execution strategies being largely ignored, not merely their "back of the envelope" ideas. Of course, I'm not drawing from a huge sample size of young workers who are running into this seniority issue, but in my conversations over the years, I see the pattern of their ideas being discriminated against.

60 weeks ago
 
Brett Kunsch Finding an apartment can be super hard, at least in New York City. Everyone points me towards www.craigslist.org but it turns into a months-long affair trying to vet legitimate listings and get competent realtors on the line. I've tried looking elsewhere, but unless I want to pay a huge broker's fee, it seems like craigslist is my only avenue. What have been your best strategies in apartment hunting in a big city, on and/or offline?

61 weeks ago from Brazen Careerists in New York City, Work/Life Blur, Networking Tips, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals and GenYChat3 more

Rebecca Thorman: @ Brett - Awesome, glad you like it. Interestingly, I didn't know this before we moved here, but HotPads is a DC start-up. I love DC - amazing ...More@ Brett - Awesome, glad you like it. Interestingly, I didn't know this before we moved here, but HotPads is a DC start-up. I love DC - amazing city, so much to do and it's great to be on the East coast after being a Midwesterner my whole life :)
61 weeks ago
Kristen Creager: I think (at least in LA) Westsiderentals.com is worth the money. Be sure to check out every facet of the apartment-- neighbors, area, crime maps, ...MoreI think (at least in LA) Westsiderentals.com is worth the money. Be sure to check out every facet of the apartment-- neighbors, area, crime maps, etc. Don't sign anything without asking the landlord everything, and get it in writing! I know...I sued my landlord for my sec deposit- and won! It was crazy.
60 weeks ago
 
TOP IDEA: Ryan Paugh What do you think of the idea of Gen Y giving rise to the Collaborative Class? My friend Shawn Graham wrote an article about this on Fast Company (http://bit.ly/f095yj ) and mentioned two great Gen-Y focused communities that I am a part of: Brazen Careerist & the Young Entrepreneur Council. He says that communities like these represent a new group of people who are leveraging technology to make more purposeful connections. I think this is true, but I don't think it's purely a Gen Y thing.

71 weeks ago from I am Gen Y, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals, Gen-Y Professional Bloggers, Generation Y Marketers and GenYChat3 more

Nicky Nam: I totally agree with Dana, and could not add more.
65 weeks ago
Christopher Lee Russell: I concur that it's not solely, or even predominantly, a Gen Y thing. I think that a lot of people are seeing that in order to get ahead and ...MoreI concur that it's not solely, or even predominantly, a Gen Y thing. I think that a lot of people are seeing that in order to get ahead and sometimes even just get by it takes a group effort. The essence of networking is to improve our opportunities, increase our capabilities and maximize the use of our time and other resources. It's about efficiency.
61 weeks ago
 
Brett Kunsch Are we still really "Waiting on the World to Change," as John Mayer sang about in 2006? I think not. But I do see people continuing with this passive approach to life. How do we show our generation that it's us as individuals (rather than "the world") that we have control over changing? http://bit.ly/dF1bWO

62 weeks ago from Brazen Undergrads, Ask Penelope Trunk!, I am Gen Y, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals and GenYChat3 more

Chris Pryd: I'd stop quoting and following false solutions widely advertised but connect dots my best way. Outsourcing solutions is smart but dangerous when ...MoreI'd stop quoting and following false solutions widely advertised but connect dots my best way. Outsourcing solutions is smart but dangerous when used as the only way.
62 weeks ago
Brett Kunsch: @Bryson - I dig it! 1000awesomethings is one of my favorite sites and something that allows people to inspire others to "be the change" would be ...More@Bryson - I dig it! 1000awesomethings is one of my favorite sites and something that allows people to inspire others to "be the change" would be pretty sweet. In a way, people on Brazen are doing that already through all of these exchanges of ideas.

@Chris - Could you expand a bit on that? I think I follow but I'd love to hear more of your perspective!

61 weeks ago
Corbin Haresnape: The Classic. Where do you want to be in 5 years?
63 weeks ago
Andrew Corliss: Finding my passion and then looking at all the options I have to turn that passion into daily life. "If you do what you love you will never work ...MoreFinding my passion and then looking at all the options I have to turn that passion into daily life. "If you do what you love you will never work a day in your life"
63 weeks ago
 
Chanelle Schneider Watching TV tonight? Come watch with the #GenYChat'ers! At 9pm ET we will be discussing trends in television and the impact social media has on promotion and marketing

63 weeks ago from GenYChat, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals, GenY/Boomer Boom Boom Room and Helicopter Parents2 more

 
Brett Kunsch More so than any other generation, millennials are faced with literally millions of choices/options - some very BIG and others not so much. After reading Barry Schwartz's "The Paradox of Choice" last fall and speaking with others on the subject, I've been wondering --> Are Millennials burdened with too much choice? http://bit.ly/honPr1

67 weeks ago from Generation Y Marketers, I am Gen Y, GenYChat, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals and Perfectionist Rehab3 more

Edward Antrobus: @Jesse, I've read and really enjoyed Shopclass for Soulcraft. It is one of the few books I've kept on my reader after finishing to refer back ...More@Jesse, I've read and really enjoyed Shopclass for Soulcraft. It is one of the few books I've kept on my reader after finishing to refer back to.

I used to spend 10 minutes or even longer trying to decide between two choices for lunch. Now, I just flip a coin. At the end of the day, choosing between a sandwich or a salad isn't going to have many any difference at all, so I don't bother expending mental energy on the choice.

66 weeks ago
Cheryl Roshak: @Jaime & Brett, to get back to your original question and discussion, coming from one who is not a millennial but was faced with choices when ...More@Jaime & Brett, to get back to your original question and discussion, coming from one who is not a millennial but was faced with choices when dinosaurs walked the earth, and am still faced with major choices today in every aspect of my life, first you might want to consider that life is all about choices, every day in every way.

When I was first starting out I had many options and directions to go in. I don't think it's the sign of the times, but time of your life where you have to consider your options and figure out which direction to go in. And trust me, it may not be the direction for the rest of your life. I've had several careers, very divergent, and very successful at all of them. You can't do everything you dream of doing at the same time. You'll never succeed that way. Eventually you'll just have to focus on something, or something will choose you and you'll find yourself at 40 wondering how did I get here? Better that you are in control of your destiny along the way, I think. Hope this helps some. Cheryl

66 weeks ago
 
Brett Kunsch: Thanks all for sharing and be open here in this thread! I'm finding that the thing that really helps kickstart moving from thinking to action is ...MoreThanks all for sharing and be open here in this thread! I'm finding that the thing that really helps kickstart moving from thinking to action is forming one single habit that will get you going. I'm no guru on this stuff, and I know it's not always easy, but try one habit for 21 days to see how you can start working towards sustainable change: http://bit.ly/hTS62R
67 weeks ago
Jamie Nacht Farrell: business ideas, visions, etc. I currently work on way too many projects / start ups and many times I'll think, "ohh - what if I do 'x'" and then I ...Morebusiness ideas, visions, etc. I currently work on way too many projects / start ups and many times I'll think, "ohh - what if I do 'x'" and then I don't execute because of either lack of time or focus.
67 weeks ago
 
Tyler Durbin How are you looking for internships? What would make the process of identifying and reaching out to opportunities easier/more effective for you?

68 weeks ago from Brazen Undergrads and GenYChat

Dana Leavy: Given some of the economical constraints Gen Y finds themselves under these days, how much do you think that contributes to the lack of social ...MoreGiven some of the economical constraints Gen Y finds themselves under these days, how much do you think that contributes to the lack of social engagement? Plenty of people want to be involved, but I think they allow certain factors to keep them from pursuing the socially-impactful work they really want to do. Brett, I know you're involved in coaching, as I'm sure a few others in this forum are too - that's a good example right there. I'm curious if this is something taht largely holds people back - they can't "afford" to do the work they want, or to dedicate the resources to helping causes they really care about. There are other ways to get involved of course, but what about those who really want to dedicate their lives to a cause?
68 weeks ago
Brett Kunsch: @Dana - Money and time are BIG factors, agreed. They are very real obstacles for people, especially if they need to work several jobs to keep ...More@Dana - Money and time are BIG factors, agreed. They are very real obstacles for people, especially if they need to work several jobs to keep afloat. I guess what it comes down to is finding a percentage of time and/or money you are able to give of yourself each week. Perhaps you can make the number 5%, which of your waking hours is about 5-6 hours per week, and maybe of your paycheck - $25. Even if it's just one hour or $10/week you dedicate to action towards any type of cause you feel strongly about, you're making a difference.

As for dedicating your life to a cause...What do others think? Anyone have experience there?

68 weeks ago
 
Brett Kunsch We often have a completely skewed vision of how others perceive us, and we often sell ourselves way short of what we can actually offer the world. But when we reach out to some honest and trusted friends, family, and colleagues who aren’t going to blow hot air up our butts, we get a clearer picture of our VALUE. ***Quite simply, others see what we cannot*** Have you reached out to rethink or resee your value? How has it helped? http://bit.ly/gDj3YR

69 weeks ago from Brazen Undergrads, Personal Branding, Personal Development, Entry-Level Young Professionals and GenYChat3 more

Jonathan van de Veen: I agree with your premise, however I do find it hard to find someone who can actually give me a proper view on my professional capabilities, ...MoreI agree with your premise, however I do find it hard to find someone who can actually give me a proper view on my professional capabilities, meaning I don't have someone that I trust enough not to have some biased motive.
Does anyone have any tips?

68 weeks ago
Brett Kunsch: Hmmm, that is tricky. I think a good starting point would be to take the Strengthsfinder 2.0 assessment. MoreHmmm, that is tricky. I think a good starting point would be to take the Strengthsfinder 2.0 assessment. http://amzn.to/fmLwfO. Of course, you won't have that personal perspective that a human could offer, but the assessment is objective and will open your eyes to your top 5 strengths.

I would still think long and hard about who is in your network who could offer you the most objective perspective. Perhaps they won't be completely unbiased, but it's a starting point, no?

Who else can help out @Jonathan?

68 weeks ago
 
Brett Kunsch There are so many ways to ensure your life isn't the one you want. I'm experimenting with a list of Ways to Lose at Life. Does anyone else have any losing strategies that others can learn from? http://bit.ly/gmabPB

71 weeks ago from Personal Development, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals, Ask Penelope Trunk!, GenYChat and Ask A Coach3 more

Stefan Bielski: This is perhaps the best list I've seen in one place:
More
This is perhaps the best list I've seen in one place:
http://www.marcandangel.com/2010/11/29/75-ways-to-stay-unhappy-forever/

69 weeks ago
D. "Diane" of ABC: Maybe have both losing strategies to grab attention, but also have winning strategies as well since they can lose without a great coach like you!
69 weeks ago
 
Brett Kunsch Generation Y has such a slippery definition. There are so many date ranges out there that it seems one can be belonging to 3 different generations all at the same time. Can someone born in 1976 really be part of the same generation as someone born in 1998? Perhaps it doesn't matter *psycho-graphically* speaking, that I agree with. But what about the Demographics? [please refer me to a thread if this has already been asked on Brazen]

70 weeks ago from GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals, Generation Y Marketers, GenYChat, I am Gen Y and Marketing Psychology3 more

 
Danielle Bullen Came across this article on preparing for a promotion: http://on.wsj.com/eIR6dQ It got me thinking. How long do you think you should be in your current job before looking for a step up? Are there timetables anymore or are promotions project-based?

71 weeks ago from The Boss-Employee Relationship, Career Rocketeer, GenYChat and u30pro2 more

peterb6086: Hi - one question I don't see anyone asking is "what is your timetable for a promotion ie what is your goal, what have you accomplished to meet ...MoreHi - one question I don't see anyone asking is "what is your timetable for a promotion ie what is your goal, what have you accomplished to meet that timetable to prove you should get the promotion, and if you are past the goal date have you talked to anyone about it.
Then, what is your 2 year goal and 5 year goal at ths company.
If you are just working along and hopeful that you are being recognized, you will be asking the same question next year. Highly recommend identifying the "golden" people who are desitned to rise, and network with them, lunch with them, learn what they do. Your future is in your hands.

71 weeks ago
Jamie Nacht Farrell: In my experience, there are 3 variables: the business model, the culture, and the individual. In reference to the business model, it is ...MoreIn my experience, there are 3 variables: the business model, the culture, and the individual. In reference to the business model, it is typically easier to move up if 1) You're in a revenue driving position. Revenue drivers are typically given a lot of PR and frequently get moved into management positions even when they SHOULD NOT (because not all good revenue drivers are managers). 2) This is where the culture comes in; if you are in a culture that clearly displays the Peter Principle - you can likely move up quickly BUT will also be doing a disservice to yourself. If you move up based on "projects" or "numbers" ONLY, you have forgotten the most important aspect of business - personal growth. 3) Mos timportantly - you have to know yourself. You have to be able to look in the mirror and say, "Here are my weaknesses" and you have to address each of them if they will impact a higher level role. You must also be prepared to TURN DOWN a promotion if a) It's not right for you b) You're not ready for it. I recently turned down the role of CEO of a large company as I know I'm not ready for it. The company appreciated my honesty and my ability to self assess and thus offered me the opportunity to work in any role I would like, design my own comp. strucutre, etc.

If you are ready for a promotion and feel you are not getting it or the opportunity has not arisen, be pro-active. Go to your boss and say, "I want to develop a 6 month professional growth plan with monthly goals that are measurable". If your boss will sit down, develop this plan for you / with you, and work with you on it - you are in a great environment. If not, it's probably time to look for a new company.

71 weeks ago
 
Tyler Durbin GenYJourney.com is looking for Gen-Y's who are interested in writing a guest post for it's weekly Gen-Y Guest Post Series. If you're interested, feel free to say so below and I'll be in touch to hear your post idea and settle on a date to post.

74 weeks ago from GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals, Gen-Y Professional Bloggers, GenYChat, Brazen Undergrads and Brazen Bloggers3 more

Jeffrey Martin: I'd love to help with a guest post at GenYJourney.com. Check out my profile for my contact info. Thanks!
74 weeks ago
Tyler Durbin: @Sam & @Edward Can each of you private message me your email addresses?

@Jeff I already have a private message in your inbox...check it out ...More
@Sam & @Edward Can each of you private message me your email addresses?

@Jeff I already have a private message in your inbox...check it out and get back to me?

72 weeks ago
 
TOP IDEA: Bryon Ownby This week, someone said the recession ended in 2009, but someone said unemployment rates in 27 states had increased again...numbers, can we even believe in the numbers any more? When you see stats like this, what are your first thoughts?

86 weeks ago from GenYChat, GenYJourney: Tips, Insights, Experiences For Young Professionals, Management Consulting and Entry-Level Young Professionals2 more

David King: I believe the recession did end by the definition of a recession which is back to back quarters with negative growth. Because of the increase to ...MoreI believe the recession did end by the definition of a recession which is back to back quarters with negative growth. Because of the increase to unemployment, it tells me that someone threw enough money at the problem to have one quarter of growth to "end the recession" and not actually fix the root cause of the recession, the lack of growth, or the rising unemployment.

Any time you get statistics showing you numbers saying one thing, there is always another statistician out there to show you numbers saying the exact opposite.

73 weeks ago
Jonathan S. Ross: The commonly reported U3 unemployment number is a polite fiction which provides a very inaccurate picture of the real job situation. The U6 number ...MoreThe commonly reported U3 unemployment number is a polite fiction which provides a very inaccurate picture of the real job situation. The U6 number (which has been around 18% for some time) is a more accurate assessment, as it also accounts for many who are deemed "underemployed" due to lack of hours, or in jobs that are not commensurate with skills, education and experience. While there are clearly some people with no interest in working yet expect their lives to be subsidized by others, if you look at the sheer number of people who are struggling to find sufficient work, you'll realize the real extent of where the economy is, and where it is heading. And if that isn't alarming, Google the recent Rutgers study entitled "The Shattered American Dream" and consider it a cautionary tale. If you have work (whether self-employed or a W-2 worker), be thankful and you better find a way to make yourself indispensable, because few people outside of unions or very uniquely skilled positions have "job security" and this will probably grow worse over time...
73 weeks ago
 

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