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Artists as Entrepreneurs

As an artist and an economist, I believe artists can gain incredible insights into their careers by considering themselves to be Creative Entrepreneurs and applying business principles to their craft to achieve success. This network will explore issues surrounding arts, business, personal finance for artists, and the economics of the arts world. (Image by rleigh on flickr)

Network Leader: Milena Thomas
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Mehul Kar Does anyone have any experience using Spreadshirt or any other only store where I could sell T-shirts? I have a lot of questions and would love to be able to talk to someone.

26 weeks ago from New Media Marketing, Young Entrepreneur Community, Artists as Entrepreneurs and Entrepreneur2 more

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Edward Antrobus: I'm not really sure, but I believe that she accepts pre-orders for a while and then orders a batch and sells them until they are gone. It may not ...MoreI'm not really sure, but I believe that she accepts pre-orders for a while and then orders a batch and sells them until they are gone. It may not be the most efficient, but she likes being able to keep the supply chain local.
26 weeks ago
Mehul Kar: That's what I've been doing, but I feel like people lose interest with the pre-selling. Those who order right at the beginning are the most ...MoreThat's what I've been doing, but I feel like people lose interest with the pre-selling. Those who order right at the beginning are the most excited, and they're the ones who have to wait the longest to actually get their apparel... that's just bad business to punish your best customers like that... quite a conundrum.
26 weeks ago
 
Mehul Kar Can music say something without lyrics? Do some songs say one thing with their music and something else with their lyrics? I feel like I run across these types of songs ALL the time.... Or maybe, the music says something different to everyone, and when the song/piece was originally written, it wasn't innately hypocritical... Any songwriters want to comment?

75 weeks ago from Music, Musicians, Artists as Entrepreneurs and Local Music2 more

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Mehul Kar: Bob: That is very interesting that old pieces composed changed their relationship to you. That's kind of what I'm talking about. Either you or the ...MoreBob: That is very interesting that old pieces composed changed their relationship to you. That's kind of what I'm talking about. Either you or the piece of music changed. Some would say that the music "gained a life of it's own." But the notes didn't change. I think the way we interpret them change over time and from person to person.

Becky: Maybe innately hypocritical should be reserved for extreme examples, such as the one described by Diggory. I find subtle hints of these kinds of songs quite a bit.

Diggory: Perfect answer. That's exactly what I was thinking. But I've heard songs of the opposite scenario as well. The lyrics are happy and beautiful, but the music is slow and dreary.
73 weeks ago
Becky Benishek: @Diggory, excellent answer, I agree.
73 weeks ago
 
Milena Thomas I was really inspired by the article I reference in this blog post, "Art and Family Life: Can a Creative Career Survive Marriage and Children?" As a career-minded mom-to-be and performing artist, I divide my time between competing disciplines and I wonder how I am going to make it work and if some aspects of my life detract from others...I think it's all how you frame it. http://artandavarice.com/2010/08/18/art-and-family-life-can-a-creative-c...

92 weeks ago from Working Moms, Artists as Entrepreneurs, Economics and Finance, Creatively Inspired and Musicians3 more

Catherine Williams: Milena, thanks for posting this. As a grad-school bound musician, it really hit home. I am not married (yet) and I do not have children (yet). But ...MoreMilena, thanks for posting this. As a grad-school bound musician, it really hit home. I am not married (yet) and I do not have children (yet). But it is nice to get that perspective that you don't always find in the music world (even on the academic side, where I am) that you can, in fact, have a family and balance your career.
91 weeks ago
 
Milena Thomas Are you interested in ideas to liberalize the music industry? Do you wonder why it is so difficult to get airplay or make a meager living as a musician? Does it seem like the only artists signed to the largest music labels have sub-par talent that is appealing mostly to tweens worldwide? http://artandavarice.com/2010/08/16/art-and-airwaves-the-economics-of-br... A paper released by Harvard Law School may have some answers...

92 weeks ago from Economics and Finance, Arts Marketing and Artists as Entrepreneurs1 more

Frank E. Warren: The paper "may have some answers...", my questions is whether these answers are correct? Some very simple concepts seem to be overlooked.
91 weeks ago
 
Milena Thomas Just curious what everyone thinks of this interesting issue of art and private property rights. I think this example is important philosophically as far as ownership of art and ownership of tangible, non-performing assets are concerned. http://artandavarice.com/2010/05/21/art-and-property-rights-bansky-takes...

104 weeks ago from Economics and Finance, Artists as Entrepreneurs and Arts Marketing1 more

Ty Unglebower: I think you really have to go with the private owner of the building. Even though it is a huge blight on a blighted city. If there are laws that ...MoreI think you really have to go with the private owner of the building. Even though it is a huge blight on a blighted city. If there are laws that eventually convert unclaimed property to the city, than institute them. But if that happens, the wall is than the property of the City of Detroit, and therefore still belongs to neither artist nor lifter.

Part of the reason that so much of Detroit is as bad as it is, is that there isn't any respect for property, private pr public, in the first place. No need to make it easier.
104 weeks ago
Chris: Do monkey's own the tree's they swing on? No, but it doesn't keep them from doing it, and you can't exactly take them to court for it. Law ...MoreDo monkey's own the tree's they swing on? No, but it doesn't keep them from doing it, and you can't exactly take them to court for it. Law fundamentally breaks down when you enter the realms of nature. I think Detroit sets the perfect scene for this discussion. I also think monkeys are a great analogy. By painting on a tree in the jungle, or on a wall in Detroit, Banksy crossed that line from law to nature. One could also argue that he crosses that line by nature of the art he makes. And by crossing that line he negates any and all laws pertaining to ownership and rights.
95 weeks ago
 
Milena Thomas Mick Jagger recently announced that the days of big profits for individual recording artists died in the late 90's. I'm inclined to agree. Do you think there is a tradeoff between access (to creating and disseminating one's music/art) and individual revenue potential? http://artandavarice.com/2010/05/28/making-a-profit-in-music-the-mick-ja...

103 weeks ago from Economics and Finance, Arts Marketing, Artists as Entrepreneurs and Musicians2 more

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Raquel Elle Bell: @Simon - I agree. There is a great book called the 50th Law it is a collaboration between 50 Cent and Robert Green who was the author of Power , ...More@Simon - I agree. There is a great book called the 50th Law it is a collaboration between 50 Cent and Robert Green who was the author of Power , Seduction & War ( all separate books with longer names) The book speaks to this very subject, regarding connection to the fans (street) http://www.the50thlawbook.com/

100 weeks ago
Iz: There are a lot of old promo methods that have gone the way of the Dinosaur that strangely enough would be effective today. Like street teams for ...MoreThere are a lot of old promo methods that have gone the way of the Dinosaur that strangely enough would be effective today. Like street teams for example. Artists should focus on zagging cuz everyone's zigging.
100 weeks ago
 
Milena Thomas Just curious what everyone thinks of this interesting issue of art and private property rights. I think this example is important philosophically as far as ownership of art and ownership of tangible, non-performing assets are concerned. http://artandavarice.com/2010/05/21/art-and-property-rights-bansky-takes...

104 weeks ago from Economics and Finance, Artists as Entrepreneurs and Arts Marketing1 more

 
Milena Thomas Wow - an innovative program at a Brooklyn hospital allows artists to earn "Health Care Credits" for health care in exchange for their time and talent through creating art programs to benefit other patients in recovery. http://badatsports.com/2010/brooklyn-hospital-takes-art-for-healthcare/ Thoughts?

106 weeks ago from Economics and Finance, Arts Marketing and Artists as Entrepreneurs1 more

Wanda: Sounds really innovative @Milena, what a great way to begin to harness human capital and talent. I wondered whether this concept was scalable, but ...MoreSounds really innovative @Milena, what a great way to begin to harness human capital and talent. I wondered whether this concept was scalable, but even if it isn't it may cause other organizations to take a fresh look at payments and service.
106 weeks ago
 
Milena Thomas Mexico has a fascinating way of taxing their artists - in actual art! http://artandavarice.com/?p=398

108 weeks ago from Economics and Finance, Artists as Entrepreneurs and Arts Marketing1 more

Ed Barrientos: This is quite interesting. However, I think you are right about the bigger problem which is how do you as an artist make money in the first ...MoreThis is quite interesting. However, I think you are right about the bigger problem which is how do you as an artist make money in the first place; or at least enough money to have to worry about paying taxes. I do like the concept, although I wonder how long the policy will be in place if those same artists start painting pictures and murals that are unfavorable to the government (which is not unusual for artists to do). Thanks for creating this very cool network!
108 weeks ago
 

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