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Last week, Fox News’s Glenn Beck announced the launch of “Beck University” featuring “captivating lectures and interactive online discussion” through an “academic program” of courses in Faith, Hope and Charity. The admissions process is pretty simple—just sign up for a subscription to Glenn Beck’s Insider Extreme on his website. The tuition is pretty cheap, too—just $6.26 per month.
Disregarding the obvious political slant (although Beck himself is not teaching the courses), there are some big questions here. What constitutes a university, or even an academic program at that? Where should we draw the line at marketing online “programs” as a university? Who is really qualified to teach? If anyone can start their own online academic program, who should we trust?
The fact that just about anyone can attach words like “academic,” “courses,” “university,” or “program” to their online content is interesting. I don’t think anyone would confuse Beck’s courses for a real accredited academic program, but I still have no doubt that some users will readily sign up for it. The fact of the matter is that Beck isn’t the first to name his own unaccredited university; he’s just brought it to a new level.
Apple did it. Take iTunes University for example; it’s an online public access point where just about anyone can create a page under which to distribute their content. It’s an amazing resource, where we can often find genuine college course lectures and materials, but Apple sure isn’t passing out degrees. There’s still plenty of subjective and non-academic content under the iTunes U umbrella and I find myself having to weed through to get to the good stuff.
Some companies even have their own corporate universities, often comprised of training programs for a specific internal positions and/or continuing education for staff’s professional development, where the company almost always picks up the tab. Although some corporate universities offer courses for Continuing Education Credits (CEU’s), most often the programs are offered with a company slant rather than general education, making the content difficult to transfer elsewhere.
Then there’s everyone else. The unaccredited Christian bible universities of the world that seek “only God’s approval.” The Average Joes disguising their mediocre knowledge of a field as a course at their self-created “university” (as an example, check out CoreTech University online). And of course, the Glenn Becks of the world basically re-branding the same old opinionated content on their site in the form of an academic program to make an extra buck.
But what does this all really mean? If anyone can start a university these days, whom should we trust with our time and our money? In an age where Gen Y is graduating with mounds upon mounds of college loan debt and not reaping the career benefits they thought they would having a college education, maybe all these privately-run, relatively inexpensive universities aren’t a bad idea. Maybe there’s more value in these various, industry-targeted, biased programs than we give them credit for. After all, if someone is willing to pay money for Beck’s program or anyone else’s, there has to be at least some value in it for that person.
So let’s keep this conversation going, because I don’t have all the answers. Did you find more value in the online program you paid $99.99 for than the college degree you paid at least $30,000 for? What about all the online resources that you don’t pay for? Is it even necessary to pay for an education anymore—if we weren’t worried about having that little piece of paper that declares us competent in reading, writing, and arithmetic? Do you think all the unaccredited programs sprouting up need more regulation or common terminology? How is all of this changing the educational landscape for the future?
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Although the term "university" can be appropriated by anyone, what we know as universities that provide valid degrees that are recognized by employers and other universities are accredited by regional and national accrediting bodies. Most online universities are NOT Glenn Beck University or iTunes University--they are accredited by the very same agencies that accredit traditional public and private universities. There are many online universities that provide degrees that are well-regarded by employers. (In a survey a few years ago, more than half of hiring managers said they would not discount someone simply because they had an online degree.) Also, many traditional colleges and universities are offering online courses and full degree programs to supplement their campus-based programs and to provide additional revenue sources. Increasingly, they will need to explore these avenues as federal and state funds get eaten up, particularly at public institutions.
Let's have a serious discussion on the value of online education. Comparing Glenn Beck University to a Walden or a Capella simply because they're online is unfair. Online education IS changing the landscape of education these days. Most of the time, the complaints I hear are elitist in nature--e.g., "they're going to degrade the value of MY degree." In reality, online education is changing the landscape by providing greater access, and greater access has always been what higher education is about in this country, from the original land grant institutions to the G.I. Bills.
"greater access has always been what higher education is about in this country, from the original land grant institutions to the G.I. Bills."
Really? Higher education has always been about "access" in your country? You mean it's not been about critical examinations of human, social, material, or spiritual phenomena? It's not been about expanding the realm of discourse concerning important matters of public interest? It's not been about understanding the fundamental premises about what is considered as "knowledge," and who gets to decide what is considered as "knowledge?"
"Access" has never been what education - and especially higher education - is about. And I'm not talking about preparation for a job, either (that's an artefact that has only been around since the Enlightenment and modernity). In my view, education is about locating oneself in the context of one's society at a time and place in history. The devaluing of education through its emphasis on instrumentality, and worse - on its implicit conveyance of social status - only serves to degrade the society which provides its contextual ground.
If "access" is the primary standard against which we measure education (and I certainly can see how that particularly fallacious line of reasoning emerges from the history of your country and its fundamental values), then it's probably time to pack up and turn off the lights, for there is truly no future.
Let me clarify: the two great revolutions in access to U.S. higher education--the Morill Acts establishing the land grant universities in the late 19th century and the GI Bill following WWII--are directly traceable to the expansion of the U.S. economy, agricultural and technological innovations, and in the latter case to the tremendous growth of the middle class in the second half of the 20th century. Whenever there has been an expansion of access, those who benefit from increased access are invariably lifted up economically, which should be something that one would hope for in a country where the majority of wealth is concentrated in a fraction of 1% while more people in the middle and lower classes can't afford the costs of daily living.
So yes: access is a critical factor in education in the U.S., and arguments against access usually take the form of elitists complaining that someone is going to dumb down and devalue the education and quality of life that they need to protect (which apparently hasn't helped some to learn how to spell "artifact" properly). The GI Bill was decried by then University of Chicago President Robert Maynard Hutchins, who called it a threat to american education that would create "hobo jungles," just like the elitists are calling online education a threat today.
By referencing "your country," I don't know what country you're writing from, but I don't know any democratic country that wouldn't connect increased access to education to improved quality of life for its citizens and improved economic opportunities for everyone. Without that, postulating the "critical examinations of human, social, material, or spiritual phenomena"--which certainly sound like activities for people who don't actually work--won't matter much if everyone is in the poor house while doing so.
Great discussion and topic, and I think there is a lot of merit to the argument that higher education is not really worth the high cost for many folks today.
Learning is become more and more specialized, and more and more of a constant process - what you learn today might be obsolete next year, or even next month - so the model of hunkering down for 4 years to "study" a subject does not work in many fields today.
Ultimately it does depend to some extent on what you want to do. If you want a certain type of job, you will need the degree required to get looked at - that's just the fact of life. If you are going to become an entrepreneur, freelancer, etc, where you are your own boss, then you have more leeway. Maybe you don't need a degree at all, because you clients/customers just don't care.
In those cases, it probably makes more sense to learn on a "just in time" basis rather than a "just in case" basis (hat tip Rich Schefren for the term). There are a lot of great options today for "just in time" learning, and that trend should continue for some time.
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@Lee: You make some very valid & rational points about the importance of online universities and the difference between them and unaccredited online "universities". I do agree that the increase in online universities and available programs online should be thought of as a good thing. As a supplement to traditional programs online courses are incredibly convenient when you need to take a few last courses while interning, working full-time, or maybe even if you're traveling. But I've taken courses physically at UNC-Chapel Hill's campus and comparably the UNC online courses were a joke. Sure you had to "read the material" and take "tests", but most of them were open-book quizzes & tests. I learned very little in my online courses. Who is regulating the way that online programs are conducted after the syllabus is written?
I seriously question the purpose of online institutions. If it is just to get as many people graduated with bachelor's degrees as possible, then it's working its way up to that goal quite well. But sooner or later there's going to be so many people with bachelor's degrees that it DOES degrade the value of a bachelor's degree. It also makes those individuals WITHOUT a bachelor's degree less desirable in the workplace to the point where you almost cannot get a job anymore without a degree. I don't think that's a path we want to go down. Not everyone in this country needs a bachelor's degree to do their job (administrative assistants, business owners, computer technicians, etc), but there are so many people out there with them now that a degree has become a pre-requisite for any job. I don't think that's good.
I don't think everyone should be able to just get a degree by regurgitating facts from a book (and for many online bachelor's programs that's all that's required). Yes, everyone should be given ACCESS to a good education, but only those worthy (who have actually learned something of value) should be able to receive the degree.
As an additional side-note, just as unaccredited universities shouldn't be compared to accredited ones, I don't think traditional universities should be compared to online universities. There is a distinct different in the purpose of online institutions versus traditional ones. I've reviewed hundreds of online programs and I've seem a common thread: preparing students in as little time as possible for a professional field/practice. Only about half of the programs require any sort of independent research and even professional degrees (like an MSN, MBA, etc.) rarely require their students to actually apply their studies to real life, such as starting their own business in an MBA program.
All food for thought.

A few thoughts:
1) Accreditation. If an organization offering online degrees is held to the same academic standards and registers with the same licensing bodies, then I see no reason that a degree from them should carry any more or less weight than an institution where you sat in on every class in the same way.
2) Savings. Accredited schools don't charge 99$ for a class. Athabasca's one of the better known online schools in Canada, and a full year's courseload with them runs around $3750. That's cheaper than the $5500 or so I paid for each year of my tuition at a public university, but it's still a sizable investment. Good education and evaluation costs money. Not as much as some people pay for it, but it's significant and you can't cut too many corners on it.
3) Socialization. For all the valuable things I learned over the course of my degree, the most valuable things I picked up were social cues, learning how to handle people, and all the extra-curricular stuff I did. Those people skills have done far more than my degree in terms of establishing that I'm an awesome job candidate. I wouldn't have any of that if I did my degree from my mom's basement, even if the academics were of an equal caliber.
If you could live in a dorm, participate in frosh, do all the cool social stuff, and just get your education from a cheaper online institution, that'd be ideal (even I did a good number of my courses online - I lived on campus but it gave me more flexibility on scheduling). But you can't divorce the social element from a university education and expect it to carry the same value.
All good points as well.
@Carlee: my wife has started a campus-based master's program at a long-standing, reputable university in the Chicago area, and she describes the classes as a joke and the assignments as much easier than her bachelor's degree. So it's just as possible that campus-based education can provide an inferior experience. As an example, let's look at class size and participation. One can argue that campus-based education is more interactive and social, but if you're at a large university taking a 100-level course with 400 other students facing a professor who doesn't know your name, how can that be a personal experience? Most online classes are small, and though the challenge of participation and interaction remains, the better course designers overcome many of these challenges through group projects and increased communication.
If you want to see a great example of how education and students are changing, here's an amazing video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCJ46vyR9o
@Brian: I also can't disagree about socialization, but don't you think that this aspect of education is increasingly the concern of the shrinking portion of our society who can continue to afford to send their kids to school for four years? (I know what I did in college, and the thought of sending three kids to college at 5x the price that I spent just so they can "party" makes me wonder whether community college will be just fine!) Besides, online education is usually aimed at the "non-traditional" student--someone who is already a little older, in the workforce, and not as concerned about the socializing aspects of education. There's also evidence that older people learn differently than younger people do--the difference between pedagogy and androgogy.
Online education is for a different type of student. You have to learn how to pace yourself and manage your own time. You have to be able to master the technology and use it to communicate effectively. These attributes also apply to today's knowledge worker--the type of person that I'd like to hire.
@Lee: You sort of brought up a point that I think has larger implications. Who ARE WE HIRING these days, anyways? Knowledge workers, yes. And those hiring such individuals care less and less about what degree you hold rather than what you can accomplish and they type of person you are. Sure, you might be more likely to hire someone with an Ivy League education than someone without a degree, but if you're comparing someone who only has an online degree from DeVry versus someone without a degree who's done some amazing shit in their short life... I'd rather go with the motivated person. Wouldn't you?
I've taken classes both at a competitive brick-and-mortar university (Michigan) and in an online, distance-learning program (through BYU, so a pretty legitimate university), and ultimately think that either format offers great opportunities to learn for a motivated students, as well as opportunities for students to coast, too.
Brian above mentioned the socialization aspect of in-person learning, and I'd have to say that that offers one major difference between the two. In person at a great school, you pick up more than just your individual pursuit of knowledge (reading, listening to lectures, etc.) as you're surrounded by the ideas, questions, and interaction of many other elite thinkers. In its greatest form, those situations challenge you to not only "know" but to "think" - you're responsible for defending your positions, answering and asking questions, etc.
Accordingly, my take is that online courses are terrific for acquiring knowledge, but that in-person education adds (or at least better facilitates the addition of) the dimension of your learning to think.
The issue of hirability and career prospects is important, too: Well-respected brick-and-mortar universities offer multiple huge advantages here in terms of alumni network, traditional recruiter interaction, etc. But even more so, a job applicant's very association with such a school acts as a credible commitment to the workforce; the applicant comes pre-approved by an institution whose approval is valued by that world, and the applicant's commitment to being admitted to the school, paying for that education, and completing the tasks necessary to graduate are all signals to an employer that the applicant is not only pre-approved, but motivated to succeed and capable of success, as well. In a perfect world all job candidates would be evaluated thoroughly, but business aims for perfection in efficiency much more than it does in meritocracy. If I need to hire for a new position and can only really afford the time to review x number of resumes and interview y candidates from that pool, there's a much higher percentage chance that I'll find a rockstar from an Ivy League school than from DeVry or Glenn Beck U., so in the interest of my own time I need to play the odds.
My grandfather sits on the school board for a large and prosperous county. I was visiting him last week and he told me the starting salary for teachers at the high school was $96,000 per year. He thought this was ridiculous and said as much to the board. To trim the budget, he proposed, he would have THE BEST art history teacher, math professor, etc in the world give a 2 hour video lecture on a big screen to 40 students, with someone who studied with this professor on hand afterwards to answer questions.
He said, "This might cost $1,000, but it makes a lot more sense than paying someone who may simply be a mediocre teacher $96,000 a year to teach." Why not provide the best information and instruction possible, at a fraction of the cost? I agree with him, but I don't think this is necessarily what online universities provide.
We can learn a lot of things online, as long as we know how to look, and I think that the value of online education can truly be hard to measure.
I ALSO know that when it comes to cost for college, you do NOT get what you pay for. I paid $35,000 per year for my liberal arts school, and came out $120,000 in debt, with no preparation to enter "the real world" at all. I didn't know how to pay bills, find a job, interview, create a budget, do basic home repair, manage workplace conflict, or start a business. I think that my college, for that cost, should have given me some basic life skills, not just a piece of paper. Sure, I met some good people and learned how to write. But it wasn't worth the cost. Furthermore, it didn't actually COST that much for the college to let me go to school there.
WAKE UP. COLLEGES CHARGE WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR. College tuition costs have risen 200% in the last 30 years. So a college that charges $30K, $40K, even $50K per year is only doing what will make its endowment richer. Yes, my alma mater currently charges $50,000 per year for people to go there. Their endowment is something like HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. For that amount, EVERYONE could go there FOR FREE for the next 100 years. But all they see are dollar signs, and stupid children willing to take out loans, ruin their credit, and pay $50,000 a year just because the school name will look good on their resume or transcript.
College cost has VERY LITTLE to do with the quality of education you receive. And I would recommend studying abroad if at all possible. Go to a Scandanavian country, go to France, go to the Netherlands, and get your PhD for very little cost. You can circumvent the nightmare of online education AND student loans.
If you'd like to continue the discussion, I've got a post on this here:
http://www.wildwomanfundraising.com/student-debt-march-4th/
Sincerely,
Mazarine