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Posted On 08.27.09

I’ve been loathe to cover details of my dating life on my blog for fear that my FH (future husband) will read them and get scared away. Well, the time has come for me to share, so the future hubby is just going to have to be charmed by my transparency.

The confession
I am living in a dating desert. The last time I went on a third date? When my ex-boyfriend and I started dating in the fall of 2006. Did you hear me?? 2006! We broke up a year and a half ago, in March of 2008. I think I could count the total number of dates I’ve had since then on one hand (okay one hand and two fingers). It’s not like I’m purposefully not dating - I actually want to be in a relationship.

This is not a pity party
Before I continue, let me make it clear that I am not looking to psycho-analyze every possible reason I am single. And this post is NOT a pity party. I’m sure many people have been single for much longer than me.

Most of the time I really enjoy my singlehood – but a good cuddle on the couch would be nice too. I am not sorry that I’ve been on exactly two second dates in a year and a half (during one of which the guy told me, “Women are like cars – better to lease then trade up when you’re done.”).

I think the “dating desert” comes from my preference for quality over quantity. Some might call that being picky. I call it “I enjoy my life and someone has to be pretty cool (with chemistry) to fit in it.” My time is precious. I have more activities I enjoy and people to see than free hours in the week. While I would love to meet someone, I’m just not that into the idea of artificially stuffing MORE activities or random people into my schedule with that as my sole goal.

Have you tried online dating?!

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, likes to ask me if I’ve tried online dating. Yes. Twice. And I lost my patience after three weeks both times. I hated the feeling of having a “dating inbox” that caused me to obsess over what was in it every day, often filling up with sleazy messages like “You look like fun – let’s have some.” I also didn’t have any chemistry with the people I met in person. Someone will inevitably then add, “But I went on 30 bad dates until I met THE ONE!”

Call me crazy, but I don’t particularly want to go on 30 bad dates in the hopes of having one good one. Is that so wrong? Is it also so wrong to think that instead of mechanically arranging a first date based on my online dating resume that someone will see me from across the room in a coffee shop, think I look interesting, take a risk and come say hello?

Is my approach unreasonable?
I ask these questions not with frustration, but with curiosity. Am I expecting too much? Is online dating and scheduling less-than-exciting-but-hey-I-left-the-house dates just how it works these days?

I still subscribe to two newspapers (the kind that get thrown onto your doorstep, not delivered to your feed reader); I still like to hold books in my hand (no offense Kindle), and I still believe in chance meetings, locked eyes across the room, and the thrill of talking to someone in public by our own nervous volition. Call me old-fashioned, but that’s just how I roll. Hopefully if I haven’t scared the FH away by now, he’ll appreciate that.

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08.27.09

Hey Jenny, found your blog through Brazen. Good post. Personally, I can't stand online dating because of how it skews in favor of women, but I do think it has it's merits. For example, it can work well for busy professionals who don't go to typical singles hotspots. If you're getting lame emails from dudes, I'd examine your profile to see what message you're putting out there to attract them. The better written your profile, the better quality guy you will attract. I can recommend the blog at evanmarckatz.com.blog, Evan is an online dating expert. Cheers!

08.27.09

Hey Lance - thanks for stopping by. I agree that online dating can be good for professionals who have a full life but aren't out there "on the scene." For the first 48 hours, it felt really nice to have so many prospects (until it quickly became overwhelming).

You also make a good point about my profile - one friend gave me feedback that I was coming across as too laid-back, which positions me more as a friend than a serious dating candidate to be "courted." The whole science of it still weirds me out. It's just me! I'm going to go check out Evan's blog - thanks for the recommendation!

08.27.09

Quality sometimes comes as a result of quantity. As we say in poker, in order to win, you have to play a few hands. Taking account that you're busy and don't want to waste precious time makes you narrow your quantity choices down a lot.

I haven't tried any of this but speed dating sounds fun or you could host/go to an eye gazing event (http://www.eyegazingparties.com/), or the one I'm most curious about, Tim Ferriss dating formula: http://blog.timferriss.com/1/post/2009/07/how-to-tim-ferriss-your-love-l...

I agree with where you're coming from though. It's a tough road and natural attraction just seems like the most obvious route. We have to balance it all in our busy lives.

08.28.09

From a married guy (10 years and going strong!):

Don't do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable.

Don't do anything that your single girlfriends tell you to do. They're single for a reason.

Do meet new people, and hang out with exiting acquaintances. Go to parties, social events, etc. Again, nothing that makes you feel uncomfortable.

You will attract people only inasmuch as you are attractive. I don't mean only physically, because in reality, that only counts for very little. I don't say it doesn't count at all, so do dress well and exercise, but really it's about you being yourself 110% and continually changing/pushing yourself to be a better person.

See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/79884/best-place-to-meet-female-progr... for some dating advice I gave for geek types to meet women, but I think you and others might find it interesting.

Also, see http://christophermahan.com/writ/sharinspoem.html , a little poem I wrote for a lady friend in your situation. She happens to like poetry, and that might not be your thing, but she liked it a lot.

In any case, don't worry about what future husband will see/read/uncover about you on the web. It won't matter at all.

Again: don't do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable.

08.28.09

typo in previous post: 'exiting' should be 'existing'.

08.28.09

As a guy who has been in one of two relationships for more than 6 years running, I will say this: listen to Christopher.

As a creative and expressive person, there WILL be a guy you will connect with, without having to sacrifice any of your ideals. It may take a little time and some luck, but there are guys out there who still believe in fleeting glances from across the room. This is from the guy who's current relationship (coming up on 3 years) started with a piano being played across a crowded dorm lounge.

Just like Akshay said, you do have to play a few hands- you have to make yourself available and keep an open mind. And you will undoubtedly go on some crappy dates (although from the car comment, it sounds like that ship has already sailed), but they'll all be worth it once you find that couch-cuddler who loves how open and honest you are.

One final piece of advice: never settle. If you compromise what you're looking for, it will only lead to disapointment and resentment, which is unfair to you and the guy you settle for. You deserve to have the guy you want as much as that guy is out there looking for you.

Good luck out there.

08.28.09

Jenny - I love this post! I'm in a dating dry-zone too and it's not fun. Like you, I have also tried online dating and was so disgusted with the results I took a break from even trying to date. I'm now going with the if it's meant-to-be, it will be approach and going out to more after hours stuff not so much single-mingle events and will never, ever online date again.

08.28.09

Amen sisters!
and yes, I totally agree with Christopher on this one. I think it's perfectly fine to have standards as well and I too believe in the if-it's-meant-to-be approach like Dianna. Sometimes forcing the hand of fate doesn't help. But there's nothing wrong with helping yourself along!

08.28.09

Jenny,

Stay picky! It's only worth it! :) As long as you are happy that's all that matters. I agree - it's nice to be in a relationship so as long as you remain social you're doing your part!

I'm very much about quality over quantity.

Kiyomi

08.28.09

I got out of a long-term relationship in April and I gave myself a few months before even thinking about dating. I've only been on one first date so far and, while it was OK, I suppose neither of us were interested enough to pursue it.

The online dating scene is messed up. I use Plenty of Freaks (not the real name, but if you use the site you know what I'm talking about) sometimes, but mostly I get boring messages from guys who a) are unemployed, b) have children or c) are looking for a one-night stand. It was exciting for about a week, max.

I think you should definitely stay picky. Meet people, see what's out there, but never settle if you don't feel absolutely taken. We're young and there are plenty of fish (and freaks, unfortunately) in the sea.

08.28.09

Jenny!

I love this post. Someone had to say it :) I tried online dating and still check into it sometimes but it does not feel right and I don't understand why I keep trying to fool myself into thinking that something could come out of it.

I went on a dating frenzy for a while and now decided to take a break and focus on other aspects in my life. I bet as soon as I stop thinking about it, something will come up unexpectedly (yes, I still believe in fairy tales :)).

Good luck with your search and let me know if you need a wing woman!

08.28.09

Going back to the question in the headline, I always recommend going for QUANTITY, and looking for the diamonds in the rough, so to speak. Obviously, its *safer* for me to do that as a guy, but I think women can date around a lot, still be safe, and gain a lot of insight and perspective from having experienced a lot of different guys and their love styles. Also, I don't see a compelling reasons to be alone when you don't have to!

08.28.09

Thanks so much for the comments and wisdom! I've really enjoyed hearing everyone's perspectives on this topic.

The response to this post has really hammered two points home for me:
1) I am not alone on the preference for quality (hallelujah!), BUT
2) Per Lance's advice, there is room to take some risks and date for quantity. Someone made a really good point in the comments on my blog - how can you expect to go on a really great date without risking some bad ones?

Thank you again for such a great conversation today.

Have a great weekend everyone!
Jenny

09.28.09

I'm late to the discussion - but then again I only am here because I just read your fantastic post-triathlon life lessons entry. So, if I may, I'll add my two cents to this particular comment thread.

In my opinion what you're doing by pursuing your passions, challenging yourself and focusing on your life checklist is really the best approach to finding someone you can go on more than a few dates with and hopefully a FH. At least that's my strategy in seeking a FW: focus on meaningful personal and professional goals and lead a fulfilling life. Sooner or later you'll meet someone during your endeavors that you think is fantastic, who in turn thinks you're equally amazing.

Online dating hasn't worked for me either...I think it's because I don't want "get in a relationships" to be an item on my to-do list. In terms finding a date, I've had better luck with a professional match-making service in that the quality of dates has been better. The downside is that it's considerably more expensive than the online DIY sites. The shortcoming is still the same for me though. It still feels like I'm working on a "to do" item. Any tips on how to get around that would be appreciated, by the way. In the meantime, I think focusing on living a full life and following your intuition is the best approach. The challenge as I see it then becomes being able to maintain a great deal of self-awareness so as to avoid becoming too set in your ways.

12.09.09

I went from being leary to enthused about online dating. After a few phone calls and dates with two men, I returned leary and then some. Two weeks in, I became exhausted, canceled my paid for account and decided I'd have better luck approaching men that caught my eye.

I think I also developed a complex. I'm giving up for awhile.

12.19.09

I agree with Lance- when it comes to quantity I'm not saying go on a date with everyone that asks, but sometimes bad dates become more than that- they teach you lessons and become a very enriching expierience that you'll be telling at cocktail parties for years to come.

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