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Posted On 03.29.09
Photo Credit: Offbeat Photography @Flickr
Photo Credit: Offbeat Photography @Flickr

They’ve been out of the job market for years.

Parents mean well, but they can give a lot of useless advice to their kids.

Especially when it comes to job searching. If your parents have been at the same place since you were in high school - they most likely haven’t had to actively look for a job in quite some time.

That being said, when they gripe at you about not finding a job - their perspective is referenced from a job market that existed 10 to 15 years ago.

Of course, they’ll bring up anecdotes about that time they were unemployed for a year in 1983 or how they had to look for a job in the bubble of the 1990s - it still won’t compare to your job search.

Why? Because they haven’t had to look for a job now.

Their contacts are in the same boat

If your parents are in the same boat as this guy - their connections may not be as strong as they once were. Since older job seekers entering the market haven’t had to look for a job in ages, they’ve probably become a little lazy and insulated from the necessities of keeping a fresh (and relevant) network.

Despite building up powerful contacts - there’ s no guarantee that your Baby Boomer parents can capitalize on them like they could several years ago.

And, by the time your Mom or Dad hits the job market - their contacts may have dwindled (if not disappeared).

The same places that won’t hire you will hire your parents

Nowadays, employers are taking advantages of the blood fest going on in the job market. Seizing upon the opportunity, they can now doubly trade in on getting cheap experience - even if it means hiring baby boomers to work at a fraction of what they could really make.

So why hire you when cheap labor comes at a better price by hiring an applicant that has twice the experience?

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03.29.09

Indeed, the entry level nightmare of the experience conundrum. People with experience will always be at an advantage, and when opportunities are slim there won't be much left over for those at the bottom of the pecking order.

This happens even in good times though and to varying levels in different industries. I looked into getting into the entertainment business in LA a couple of years ago. I was told by numerous people that most of their applicants were just further along in life and had more experience... that qualified them to get an assistant job with long hours that you may only make $25k/year at if you're lucky.

I think that employers that opportunistically hire employees at cut rate prices are not doing themselves any favors though. They may have got a bargain in the short term, but it won't take long for employees to resent their pay when they know they could be making more elsewhere. Now the company has to deal with the cost of unmotivated employee sabotage and re-hiring someone in the near future.

That said, to job seekers who fall at the lower end of the experience range, the scarcity mindset will not serve you well. The worst thing you can do is mope around hanging your head low about how you're seemingly getting beat to the punch everywhere by people with more experience.

jrandom42
03.30.09

Not happening. Mom died 9 yrs ago. Dad said, "I didn't survive WW 2, worked my butt off for over 40 years a businessman, and amassed a good retirement just to go back to work as a WalMart greeter. Besides, who's gonna hire me at 89?"

03.30.09

I disagree. My mother isn't in the same job market or field that I'm in, but she always gives the best advice. Maybe my mom is special, I'm not sure, but I think the basics or a job search - relationship-building, touting your strengths, etc. will always be the same. Great post.

03.30.09

I agree with Rebecca. My mother has always given me great advice and we’re also in two totally different fields. The only thing different about finding a job today with respect to when they (our parents) were first starting out are the tools in which to do so (i.e. Monster, Careerbuilder, etc.).

Those who have more experience will always have the edge in landing a job, but that is not to say that those who have less experienced don’t stand a chance. Sometimes, your personality and the perception you give off to be willing to learn new things might seal the deal and land you that job.

03.30.09

Further quote from Dad: "After running a successful business for over 40 years, I'd find it really hard not pointing out what they were doing wrong. They'd probably fire me for being so blunt, but I'd know I was right when they either adopted my suggestions, or went under."

03.30.09

I think that people of all ages tend to give a lot of useless job searching advice. We ALL tend to be bad a job searching until we need to get a job to eat and than we suck it up and figure out what we're doing wrong. Job searching is hard because we are reduced to a page piece of paper, no one cares about our unique qualities unless we get a final interview, we're constantly rejected, and we have to ask strangers for help.

The 59 year old sandwich board guy who you linked to above (Paul N) and the late 20's of www.myhusbandneedsajob.com fame may be from different generations but they both found ways to get publicity about their job status.

Equally unfortunately is that resumes are both pretty crappy. Paul N, the 59 year old, uses 2 different formats and dense paragraphs so you give up reading his resume quickly.

Hiremyhusband's resume includes overstated accomplishments like increasing revenue of his company by 40% as a mere summer intern. He also lists "reading" as an interest which is like including "drinking coffee" as an interest. It's more of a function of daily life.

So 2 different generations, both with new provacative ways of getting noticed, and both undone by the oldest medium in the job search, a crappy resume.

03.30.09

It is a new job market. You simply don't get jobs the same way you used to. It's all about WHO you know. That's hard for a lot of older workers, because you used to at least have a chance of getting a job if you were qualified but didn't know anyone at the company. That simply isn't happening these days.

03.30.09

@Suzanne,

I don't think it's a generational issue. Our parents are the first to spout the old mantra, "It's not what you know, it's who you know." Young as well as old, knowing someone relevant is always the tricky part.

03.31.09

@Rebecca & Latosha
I don't doubt your parents give you great advice, you're both very dynamic women (and bloggers)- but it's not the same for everyone. And, like I've said before - you don't have to be in the same field, have the same job to give someone great (job) advice.
From my experience, the best advice was always the advice that didn't immediately resonate with me. It made me question what I was already doing. It confronted me with what I already knew - and challanged me. Sometimes your parents give you that - sometimes they don't.

@Dead Hedge
Creating publicity for a job is gamble.My question with Paul N was - where's your network? Why are you touting a sandwich board when there are other (more productive) ways to "publicize" your job search? And, Paul N's resume is pretty crappy - his time is better spent with a resume coach, not a sandwich board in Times Square

@Suzanne
You're right. People don't get jobs the way they used to it. I think the best example of someone slapping the job hunt in the face is Jamie Varon's creative approach to marketing herself for a job with Twitter. (www.twittershouldhireme.com)

@Jrandom 42
As usual, I am humbled - but I would hope your father is enjoying his retirement at 89, not working.

@Brian
The entry level/experience conundrum - that's interesting that you bring that up. I agree with your points about employers putting themselves at a disadvantage by hiring over qualifed/experienced employees - but it won't stop them. In those cases, they get what they deserve (short-term stints, turnover, etc.)

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