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Posted On 12.12.08

On November 4, 23 million young people came out to vote--the largest number since 1972 and 3.4 million larger than in 2004.

I am standing on a battleground here about to say something that is stingingly obvious but is rarely said for some reason.

Throughout history, youth have shown up at the voting polls, in small and large numbers, to pull the lever for the democrat candidate. There may be a case or two where youth will show up in force for a republican candidate but those cases are few and far between.

So, why aren't we all leaning HEAVILY to the left? If the youth are so strongly left leaning when they are young, what happens when they grow up that the country balances itself to a left and right mentality? (balance being that it is off by basically low population numbers).

The answer is simple. People grow up.

Now you can read that as me attacking liberal's mentality level or intelligence but that is not the case. I am simply talking in terms of lifestyles and living.

These youth that the Obama campaign and everyone are squealing about are, for the most part, in the ending days of high school or off at college. The reality hits these individuals when they finally get a job, negotiate the pay and then take a look at their first few paychecks and realize that what they negotiated is nowhere near what they are getting because 30% or more is taken from their checks for taxes. People grow up.

Individuals do their homework and spend a good amount of time in a stressed out state, believing they are losing it, prior to signing that dotted line for their mortgage. They go over every detail and do their homework on bad loan situations and their own personal responsibility of owning a house before they throw pen to paper. Yet, they see those that chose the easy way get bailed out by their own tax money while they may be struggling in a different area and no one is helping them. Even if someone could help them, there are a good percentage of American people that would probably refuse a hefty handout because they know that handout really isn't free. People grow up.

Boys become men and girls become women and without having to go over the birds and the bees story with you, there comes a time when couples decide to start a family. Fact is, a couple decades ago a family could live off of one income. Now it takes both parents to run a household. Yet, some families can meet up with neighbors that refuse to get a job because their welfare check pays more than a minimum wage job would. For good reason, that angers people. People grow up.

A lot of individuals go to work in stressful economic times like these and put their noses to the grinder from 8 to 5, or longer, worried that they may be laid off at any second, willing to go the extra distance to do anything for the company. Yet, you see union workers across the country that refuse to take ANY extra steps because it "isn't part of their job" and their bosses and representatives happen to get paid for sitting around drinking coffee and reading the paper all day just because it is a MUST that a certain amount of union workers must have a rep per that number. So we have people sitting around getting paid for doing nothing because they MUST be employed. Union workers aren't as easily discarded either because of their protection. So instead of being able to run a business and make the necessary type of cuts, a business owner has to literally run their company into the ground and bankruptcy before a union can be "let go" (by the way, Obama wants to strengthen and empower union workers even more now). Still, the everyday regular worker sweats out the minutes hoping that pink slip doesn't come his or her way. People grow up.

My point is not about growing up in your intelligence, I actually mean it quite literally. These types of situations don't happen until you are out of college and faced with the type of consequences. Are the youth that voted for Obama unintelligent? More than likely not, but they do have some growing up to do.

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Scott
12.12.08

Good article. I'd add that the realities of actually governing will cause Obama to "grow up" real fast. We are already seeing this with his appointments and his positions.

12.12.08

Good point. After all, they do say those who aren't conservative dont have anything to conserve...

Kristen
12.12.08

Actually, I would suspect that "youth" extends much farther than high school, and probably at least to their thirties for many. People coming out of school get hit with the health insurance problem pretty quickly - they're the most underinsured age group out there. Not to mention the rest of life, which probably has them grateful for a while that they have a government safety net.

But on the other hand, I think there's already a visible left/right split in youth - it just happens at the moment that the Democrats seem more likely to address both sides of that split. In terms of fiscal conservatives, the Bush Administration has pushed a lot of them over to the Democrats, because while the common wisdom is that Democrats tax and spend, the reality we've been experiencing is that the Bush Administration borrowed and spent (which to a real fiscal conservative is the only thing worse than taxing and spending). Much of the news about the Republicans right now is that they're not really "free market" advocates so much as advocates for creating laws that allow companies to circumvent the free market. The fiscal conservatives may not quite know what they're getting with Obama, but they're guessing that its better than what they'd get until the Republicans start to conserve things again.

I've thought for a long while that I might end up as a Republican, since I'm fairly conservative. Problem is the Republicans don't want to conserve anything except imaginary versions of religious purity.

12.12.08

Kristen-Great reply! fact of the matter is that the republican party and democrat parties aren't what they used to be. I think that both are a disgrace to their roots and both have shifted left. The conservatives (as much as some hate them) have for the most part stuck their ground and watch the crowd move in the opposite direction because of....ding..you hit it on the head with Bush, there is no reason for any party to be happy with him except for keeping citizens safe. Some will argue about troop deaths and that is true.

We will just have to see how the future plays out. I think it will be a tug of war throughout the years with large numbers going for republicans and then back to democrats in a swing each decade because frankly both parties screw things up TOO MUCH.

Gavin
12.12.08

Chris,

I think you're fundamentally incorrect on a key issue here. You appear to assume that EVERY generation has been disproportionately left of center in youth, then becomes more centrist and/or conservative in their aging years. While this may be the case, the youth vote was by no means a stronghold for the Democratic Party even as recently as 2000.

Here's a CNN exit poll from 2000, showing a cross-sectioning by age grouping:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/results/index.epolls.html

You'll notice that, when broken down by age, there really isn't any distinguishing partisan tendency that's statistically relevant. Perhaps 18-29 year olds preferred Gore slightly more than Bush, and had a small following for Ralph Nader, but this is nothing near the scale that young voters broke for Obama.

Here's 2008's numbers:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls.main/

I contend that while your explanation for young voters preferring Obama is fairly close to the mark, I don't think that young voters are more liberal by their very nature. They are certainly more idealistic than older voters. Growing up means tempering your political IDEAS with REALITY. And the notion that the Republican Party or conservatives have a monopoly on pragmatic thought is simply untrue.

Young voters aren't naive because they vote Democratic. Naturally, certain life experiences will affect their outlook on the world as they age, but I disagree with the notion that these new experiences will inevitably lead Millennials to gravitate away from the Democratic Party.

Gavin
12.12.08

Also, "Democrat Party" is a misnomer. If you intend to be taken seriously, you'll need to get the spelling correct:

Democratic Party

Anonymous
12.12.08

Obama won the election. Time to grow up and let it go already.

Anonymous
12.12.08

Places that went for Obama are richer and smarter than places that went for McCain.

http://slate.com/id/2206512/

"More than 30 years ago, pollster Everett Carll Ladd Jr. wrote about the "inversion of the New Deal Order." Ladd was one of the first to notice that white workers without a college degree were voting Republican in larger numbers and that educated white workers were turning Democratic.

In the meantime, the results from this year's election show that there is certainly a geographic division in America based on class and status. Democrats won in the richest and most educated communities in the country."

Anonymous 2
12.12.08

Chris:

I thought you were off to a good start witht eh comments, until the Obama is superior, just look at his (supposed) demographics crowd moved in. Oh well. Unfortunately, this one election, to the exclusion of decades of prior voting and party affiliations, makes the point for too many. Such is the nature of discussion these days. What will befall us in 4 or 8 years? Obviously nothing to the myopic masses.

I think you've got an interesting post. Keep up the good work. It's never an affront not to like a conclusion or observation, but still recognize them as perhaps valid.

Bret Sanders
12.12.08

Look I've got nothing against a thoughtful argument for the conservative platform but this aint it. What personal experience with unions do you have? Ever spoken to someone on welfare? Your words sound as if you are repeating the opinions of someone older and more bitter than yourself.

Have your own experience man.

By the way your conclusion does not make sense. "My point is not about growing up in your intelligence, I actually mean it quite literally." Literally "growing up" means to increase in size and stature. By the late teen years most people have grown as much as they are going to grow. Unless you are advocating obesity or a thyroid malfunction your reasoning is muddled.

12.15.08

I love when comments come from anonymity, it's cute guys, no really.

@Bret- Have we met before somewhere? I don't have a link to your profile or website or anything so I can't see you. You MUST know me though, to make such a bold assumption that I have not had my own experiences, bravo sir, bravo. Actually both the circumstances you directly attacked me for I HAVE had experiences with and I have also spoken with others that have had those experiences. You call me bitter, and to an extent I am, especially when the government is supposed to create a safety net for individuals who should be allowed to fail to learn how to do the right things, yet we attack the rich on a daily basis because, they have money? Because they worked hard or found a way to profit? Apparently success and the "American Dream" are dead in this country in the name of "equality", even at the expense of the dream itself.

As for the "growing up" part, it could also refer to getting older, which usually puts you through different stages in life like graduating high school, college, getting a job and so forth.

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