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Posted On 10.27.08

This post is a response to Ryan Healy’s 5 Steps to Never Worrying About a Job Search Again.

Ryan, I couldn’t agree with you more.

I actually just did a video shoot with undergraduates about a similar topic to the one you just posted about.  Here is what I got from it:

  1. Undergraduates in general have no
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Jessica
10.27.08

I agree with you but I'd like to add that I believe a lot of people go to college with the expectation that upon graduation they will be employable because they have a degree. "College shows employers that you can devote yourself to something" is a phrase that is frequently heard, but college is also suppose to provide for you an education which will result with you having the desired skill set for your (broad) major. 3, 4, and 5 I think you hit right on the head. Being an undergrad with a blog which is syndicated through here, with an online personal brand, and an extensive network I can say from experience that it is hard to present those things to other college students; its something I'm trying to get my Greek sisters to fully embrace. I just get made fun of for taking business cards to the bar with me, but hey, I've needed them before.

Nisha Chittal
10.27.08

I'm an undergrad, and I agree that your of points apply to a lot of my fellow students, and I think it's really unfortunate -- I wish college students were more aware of a lot of these things. But I still don't know if specializing too much is a good thing -- I always worry that it will limit options.

Ryan Healy
10.27.08

Hi Jun,

Thanks for the response post! Great point about specializing. People often do think of specializing as a creative or technical area, but it can be much more. For example, through reading, researching and blogging for the past 2 years, I have been establishing a specialty in Human Resource issues, more specifically issues relating to Generations in the workplace, and even more specifically Generation Y at work. Now I don't expect this to be my lifetime specialty and I probably won't end up in HR, but it allows me to stand out at this point in my career and life.

I'm still blown away by the number of undergrads who are scared to share information on a blog, but probably post facebook photos of them partying, without hesitation. I think this has a lot to do with the advice they're receiving from professors and older folks about the dangers of the web. Unfortunately whoever is giving this advice is doing students a disservice and actually hurting their career aspirations before they get started!

Finally, I hated networking when I was in school, and even now, being an introvert, I'm hesitant to do it. But it's absolutely necessary to network with anyone and everyone if you want to stand out from the crowd.

-Ryan

Jun Loayza
10.27.08

@Jessica - You're right. Students believe that a degree is enough to get them a career. It is true in many cases that all you'll need is a degree, but to truly find something you love doing will take more than a degree. You will need to go out and build relationships with people who can help you with your career and you will need to build and establish a brand for yourself. I have tried to get my frat brothers to embrace blogging and personal brand building, but they still don't get it. I will crack them soon though :)

@Nisha - Specializing too much is always a fear of mine. If I learned how to complete code and build a web 2.0 site, would that really benefit my company or my entrepreneurial skill set? I feel that if I specialize too much on one skill, I will be expected to just perform that task. As an entrepreneur, I look to expand my network and relationships so that I have a huge resource of people on my team with different specializations. When I need coding, I look to one person; when I need funding, I'll look to another person; when I need design, I have a choice between team members 1, 2, and 3.

@Ryan - It's so true. Students constantly put up some "crazy" pics of themselves on myspace and facebook, and then they turn around and say they don't want to "write" about their experiences online because it's too private. I think a big part of this is that students are lazy and they want to take the easy route. Putting a picture online is easy to do, while writing a 600 word post about my experiences last night is a lot of work; getting straight A's in class is easy to do, while building professional relationships is hard to do.

Thank you guys for your comments!

- Jun

Shawn
10.27.08

I didn’t learn this until the last semester of my senior year, but the first thing undergrads need to realize is that they’re usually not going to do anything in their major field of study without an advanced degree. For example, I graduated with a degree in business and economics but I’m definitely not an economist and I know I’m definitely not a business. That’s not to say you can’t or shouldn’t play up the transferrable skills you’ve gained through your major to make a connection to the jobs you’re going after.

You start to define your “specialty” by the internships you chose. Recruiters want to see experience that relates to the job for which they’re recruiting. If you want to work in marketing, but you don’t do an internship or do one in an area totally unrelated to that function, you’re going to have a hard time differentiating yourself from other students.

Blogging can definitely be a value add depending on the type of job you're going after but there's no better way to find your focus than to actually test drive the job by doing an internship.

Jun Loayza
10.27.08

@Shawn - I can only partially agree with your claim that you WON'T use your major. I was an Economics and Philosophy major at UCLA. The only things I truly use from economics are my understandings of supply and demand, and economies of scale (which is pretty much all of economics). I found philosophy to be very useful because they teach you to take complex problems and break it down into much simpler ones that other people can understand.

Erika with Qvisory
10.27.08

One thing that I usually counsel undergrads to do is pick an interest and run with it. Sometimes it's easier to geta move on and then course correct as you go than it is to stand still and try to figure it all out right away.

For example, I started my career in HR. During my tenure I started a personal blog, learned how much I love blogging, and now that's what I do for a living.

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