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Posted On 10.24.08

My absentee ballot came three weeks ago and I haven’t mailed it in yet. In fact, I haven’t even been looking for it; I found it last night by accident, carelessly stuffed between a bill and my bank statement. The reason my ballot hasn’t been shipped off to Florida yet is because I’m still undecided. Not about a candidate - I’m undecided whether I even want to vote this year.

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Pirate Jo
10.24.08

Vote for a third party. As you have already observed, being stuck with only two choices is a big problem. If third parties can get more votes, they won't have to spend so much time, money, and energy just trying to get on the ballot.

Meg Roberts
10.24.08

Hi Pirate Jo,

This is true, which is why I wrote about our current debate access laws. I've been reading up on this issue and I want nothing more than for third parties to be viable tickets in future elections. Unfortunately, voting for a third party ticket in this election will seem more like a wasted vote. What we need to do is reform our ballot and debate access laws.

Thanks for commenting!

Meg

Pirate Jo
10.24.08

Yes, a lot of people think voting for a third party is wasting your vote ... which is precisely the problem. So don't be part of the problem! The only way you are wasting your vote is if you don't vote at all, and you don't get a prize or anything if you vote for the guy who ends up winning. So what do you have to lose by at least doing something to widen the playing field?

Meg Roberts
10.24.08

The reason why I don't feel energized by this election is because I feel as though I will be compromising too many issues that are important to Americans by settling for either candidate.

Unfortunately, I wasn't even aware that there were so many third party candidates running until I carefully examined my absentee ballot. My point is that the election process failed to fully educate the American public about all the possible tickets, and I'm sure there are numerous people who still have no clue that there are options outside of McCain, Obama, and Nader. As I said before, I hope this will change in the near future.

Media interviews, debates, campaign rallies, and platforms play a significant role in my decision as a voter, and I find it hard to vote for a third party candidate when I do not feel fully educated on their issues and how they handle themselves in the public spotlight.

For me, an uneducated vote is what's wasteful.

Anna
10.24.08

My husband isn't voting. For the last election, he voted because his parents made him--and his parents told him who to vote for. This time, he's not voting at all. He isn't the least bit interested in politics or politicians. This kills me, because I don't get to vote, since I'm not a citizen. Voting is a huge privilege that many people in this country would love to have. The citizenship process is difficult, time-intensive, and expensive. Take pride in what you have, and exercise your right as an American.

Andy W
10.24.08

An important point to remember is that there's other people on the ballot other than the president. Voting for state and even county officials can make a difference in the government, even if they aren't as influential as the president.

Meg Roberts
10.24.08

@Anna - Believe me, I know that it is a privilege to vote, as I said in my post.

@Andy - I've already done extensive research on the officials and issues present on my ballot, and will be taking part in that election. Thanks for reminding us all, though.

Pirate Jo
10.24.08

If you are socially liberal and fiscally conservative you might be a libertarian. I know the Lib party isn't going to win, but I am hoping that with more and more people feeling angry at government and disgusted with the two major options, people will start looking at third party candidates more, instead of simply abstaining from the whole process altogether.

Campaign finance laws are rigged in favor of the two main parties. The reason people don't know about third parties is that those parties have to spend all their time and money collecting signatures and just trying to get their candidates on the ballot - they don't have much money left over afterwards for commercials and advertising. I think it's going to take a grass roots effort to change the landscape.

Competition would do them all some good! Remember how the Republicans got elected to reduce the size of government, and then went on a crazy spending and bureaucracy-creation spree? Think if they had someone other than the already big-spending Democrats to compete with. I think it would be great to have three or four or five major parties. We get irritated when we only have one cable provider to choose from. We only have two major political parties to choose from, but all we have to do to widen our range of choices is to vote for another choice - they are already right there on the ballot.

I am also heartily sick of all the hatred and division that comes from having two major parties. Red vs. Blue - yuck. It's time for that crap to end, too. People get polarized on the basis of a single issue, like abortion, say. Well what if you had THREE parties that took one position, and three other parties that took the opposite position? Now you can have your way on that one issue, and also maybe a few others. But of course, people have to stop thinking of third-party votes as wasted ...

Jay Wigley
10.24.08

@Anna. . .tell your husband that lots of smart people don't care about politics. I hate politics actually. But what I do care about is responsible people governing me. And that the people in charge of the money that they take from my paycheck are using it in ways I would myself, as much as possible. Oh, and that they aren't criminals. So, even if he hates following politics, not voting isn't helping politics (or politicians) get better.

Tiffany
10.24.08

Hey Meg,

I steer away from political discussions for the same reason as your post: I'm not voting either. One of my contractors tried to convince me to vote for Obama stating the obvious reasons but also pointing out the good points in McCain. But like I said to him, this country has a lot of healing to do and most of the healing does not affect middle america as much as the media makes it seem. We need to fix our government, we need to fix our banks and our international interests. These need to come first before the people are really helped and that has not happened for quite some time already. Whoever gets elected has four years to fix things and its not like things get fixed over night. The one thing everyone is lacking is money and if all the money has to be given to banks and such, how can they really change anything. This president will build the foundation for future presidents to build upon. But to stand there and promise things that do not look likely in the next four years (which is not a whole lot of time) because there is already too much on your plate is not convincing me to vote.

Bravo Meg for sticking to your guns.

Meg Roberts
10.24.08

@Pirate Jo - I think maybe the fact that I completely agree with you is getting lost in translation. I want to see American government more toward a multi-party system. For anyone else out there with similar views, this is an organization fighting debate barriers: http://www.opendebates.org/aboutus/

@Tiffany - Thank you for your insight and kind words. This was a very difficult post for me to write, but in the end, I think it was well worth it.

Norcross
10.24.08

My political beliefs are much like yours, although more socially liberal, fiscally moderate. And I, too, have my Florida absentee ballot, which both my wife and I will be filling out ours this weekend. I've become so disgusted with the process, and McCain's campaign in specific, that I am voting for Obama, if for no other reason that to (hopefully) show politicians that the Willy Horton / Swiftboat attack ads don't work for the upcoming Gen-Y voters

Yvette
10.24.08

Meg: I admire your honesty about your feeling of disappointment. Really. I think you speak for a lot of us.

The point is usually made (in political science theory) that while our democracy if far from perfect, it's the best system we have (at this point). In other words, we would not want to go back 200 years and live under a king/queen, or under a dictatorship, or even a one party state where it seems like there is little chance for those of us not born rich and "connected" to have influence.

Personally I agree and can think of many improvements we should make. For instance: Canada has five political parties for 60 million people, to feel represented. USA has two (main parties) for over 300 million people. Of course we don't feel a represented. I'd love to vote for a Green Party candidate, for instance. (Hat tip to the Libertarians.)

On an optimistic note, by having a regular election (i.e. not allowing any one in power to stay in power indefinitely like Russia's Putin or Cuba's Castro) even if we get a "dud" for a president, at least it will not last forever. In the long run, a democracy is more stable ... than any other invented system.

Out of 40 or so presidents this young country has elected, most of them have been great. Some have been outstanding. Some have been terrible. Some have died in office. The point is, we have a "peaceful" transition every few years, and the country is much more stable than any one individual ... or a lot more so than monarchies and dictatorships. If you can think of a way to improve the system, that'd be great.

(Actually the best regime is a benign dictatorship, kinda like the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt, but unfortunately one bad leader can ruin the society completely, and there's not a system of peaceful transition in the long run. Dictators can get a lot done (good or bad), and democracy is "messy" but a bad dictator is very hard to get rid of.)

Anyway, all this is just to say ... I still think we all have to work from within the system we already have, and make it better. This is the lesson from the radical 60s (for boomers and Gen x). Ultimately, as Thomas Jefferson said said: an educated population protects democracy. Otherwise, we have chaos. Giving up, is not the best option.

In 2004: 125 million people voted, or less than 50% of the country's population. They chose Bush over Kerry.

It matters. Vote. Just send in your piece of paper, and then get on with the other important aspects of your life.

Please vote, just make your own best guess as to the best people/decisions. Let's not let the decision be made and then complain later we had no say. We all have limited say, but we do have some say. "Some" say is better than none.

(In Massachusetts we have three amazing ballet questions. One on taxes, one on marijuana decriminalization, and one on protecting greyhound dogs from racing abuses.)

As Andy W. said, it's not just the presidency that matters.

P.S. I wish I could vote now - and get it over with!

Tim
10.24.08

What are you talking about? We have two EXCELLENT candidates to chose from. Whether you want to increase the size of the military, or stay in Iraq for 100 years, we all have great options that the major 2 parties gives us.

What I'm really worried about is an independent candidate who might cut funding for the Department of Defense. I work for Lockheed Martin and without massive government contracts and subsidies for our products, I could get a paycut. A 3rd party might instead choose to devote hard-earned tax dollars to frivolous pursuits like health care, education, and energy, which have nothing to do with American global hegemony. I fear for the future if this happens.

Please vote for Obama or Mccain. And don't forget to worship Satan!

Pirate Jo
10.24.08

A fourth party might even let people keep the money they earn, and THEN what would people do? Spend their own hard-earned, non-tax dollars on frivlolous pursuits like health care, education, and energy, that's what! And without a government bureaucrat sitting in the middle to take a chunk for himself! What would the world come to?

Reina
10.24.08

Meg,
I'm in the same boat. I'm fiscally conservative, socially liberal. I did an online quiz once that told me that makes me libertarian, but I consistently vote Republican (and am registered Republican) because the fiscally conservative part is more important to me than the socially liberal part.

I would LOVE to have a third party that was viable and competitive. If nothing else, this election year has gotten me very interested in grass roots movements. I want my vote to COUNT. I want my interests to be spoken about by someone, anyone, not plugging the party line. I think that cannot happen unless something very big happens by the people in America.

I had heard that once upon a time thinking people had a way of changing the way this country was being shaped. I'd like to see that era rise out of this very polarized election.

I think part of the problem of the two parties is that in order to get as far as a presidential nominee, you have to convince the party officials that you will tow the line. I think a strong third party would shake that entrenched not-so-secret society up a bit, which would only do this country good.

My problem is not knowing what to do about it. How do you get a whole bunch of singly unhappy people together into a large enough group to make a difference?

Ulyana
10.25.08

I am in the process of getting my citizenship, and it's looking like I'm missing the election day by a few weeks. I'm excited about finally having a voice.

Although, I can't vote, I am really fired up about this election, spending an unhealthy amount of time learning about the candidates and their approaches to resolving our issues. And you know what? Just like you, I feel I am still not educated enough. The media coverage of this election is insulting.

I also feel like there is an incredible lack of trust in politicians. And, as you pointed out, the entire election process seems to be flawed. I can definitely see how difficult it is to pick one candidate...

I look forward to other - local - elections, though.

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