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Ever feel left out of the conversation at work? Ladies, you know what I’m talkin’ about. You pass by the water cooler and the gathering of male co-workers is in a heated debate over whether Ladainian Tomlinson or Adrian Peterson should be the first pick of this year’s fantasy football draft while you’re left thinking to yourself, “Doesn’t Lebron Tomlinson play basketball?” Don’t worry; you’re not the only one.
It’s an age-old problem; for the most part, men love sports and women tend not to share the same face painting, heart stopping, rage-inducing passion for what they view as children’s games. Well I’d like to give some pointers to you Generation Y Women on how to better relate to your male co-workers, and the guys in your personal life, through sports.
We know that career advancement is not all about work, work, and more work. It’s as much about building relationships as it is about work ethic. You’ve got to be able to string together a five-minute discussion during a break with a fellow employee or, more importantly, a boss, if you want to be the first person looked at when that big promotion pops up.
I can’t imagine it feels too good to be amongst a group of males at work with a range of little to nothing to talk to them about besides the constant paper jam. Kind of like being a guy in a nail salon, I guess. Luckily, this doesn’t have to be you any longer.
Here is a short list of Do’s and Don’ts to live by if you want to give off the impression that you have half a clue about the wonderful (but male dominated) fanatical world of sports.
Don’t start a conversation with a line like, “So that Tom Brady is really something, huh?” You need some sort of follow-up response because anyone who knows a thing about sports will know who Tom Brady is and that he’s great. We seriously don’t need you telling us about it.
Do say something simple like, “Brady really lit up the Jets this week.” As long as the information is right and you have some follow up material, this would be a great conversation starter. A perfect follow-up line could be “Their pass D is garbage!” Your goal is to sound somewhat knowledgeable, not to sound like you are aimlessly trying to get our attention and talk to us about something other than the smell seeping out of that IT guy who comes in once a week. Click here to learn what "pass D" (pass defense) is (and lots of other American football tactics), and start practicing phrases like “lit up.” (Hint: it means Brady played really well)
Don’t sit down and watch one minute of SportsCenter and try to have a full conversation about the little piece of information you absorbed. Those of us who like sports probably watch at least an hour of SportsCenter per day (I know, I know….Get a life) and we will expose your severe lack of knowledge. We won’t intend to make you feel stupid, but you’ll probably end up feeling that way anyway.
Do go on espn.com for about fifteen minutes and read a couple of headlines and stories so you have some idea of the important things happening that day. Sports are ever changing. That’s what makes sports beautiful, yet extremely difficult to follow. Ya know, unless you are insane like me. Oh, and have no life. Yep, just like me too.
Don’t turn down invitations to participate in the office athletic activities. I’ll let you in on a little secret – most guys suck at softball, golf, basketball or whatever other IM leagues exist. They just think they’re good!
Do take golf lessons. Learning to play golf at this point in your life, especially if you learn to play it well, will open just as many doors as your college diploma. I’m not kidding. If you’re good, the guys in the office will always want you to come with them on golf outings with clients or bosses. It’s not a male thing, it’s a sport thing. So go ahead and play with the guys.
Don’t attend a company sports outing wearing professional, office-appropriate clothing. It’s called office-appropriate for a reason. Put in some effort. You know you wouldn’t like us showing up to a fancy dinner dressed in jeans and a t-shirt, so don’t show up to a baseball game in high heels and a blouse.
Do look up Alyssa Milano’s new sports clothing line called Touch. It’s kind of expensive, but it looks nice, and we will be way more willing to talk sports with you at the game. Your goal should be to feel like part of the group rather than just the person sitting there eating a hot dog. So grab a beer, sit back, root for the home team, and have a good time.
If you follow these simple dos and don’ts, you will be well on your way to fitting in where you never thought you could – the popular world of office sports talk.
In the coming weeks I’ll be giving more do’s and don’ts and some quick tips for the best sports conversations at work, or even with your boyfriend. Here are few options for getting sports conversations started this week:
1. Behind the Scenes with Michael Phelps

I think you should know who played, who won, the major stars, and maybe a few highlights. Just enough to show that you know whats going on, even if you don't really care about it.
If you absolutely hate sports, don't disparage sports in front of fans. This is probably a good idea for other matters of personal taste. There's no reason to annoy people unnecessarily when you are trying to build relationships.
But DON'T act as if you like sports if you don't. Don't try to speak sports talk ('lit up', etc). Don't learn arcane sports trivia. Unless you are a really good actor, you will look like you're faking it.
Seriously. Imagine if someone started talking to you about one of your passions when you know they aren't into it, but they always seem to bring it up, just because they know you like it. Wouldn't that feel a little, I dont know, creepy? I'd feel like they wanted something from me, or had a checklist in their head ("talk to Scott about his weird hobby today") that they were going through. And I could never feel comfortable to really launch into a conversation on the topic, because I'd always be looking for that glassy-eyed look that means they've lost interest and are just being polite.
I think it's OK to know a bit about sports so you don't look clueless, but don't fake an interest. A daily glance at the sports headlines in the paper should be enough.

Not knowing about sports and having to talk about sports to fit in aren't issues I've had to deal with. Perhaps I've been in unique work environments?
I stopped following sports when I stopped playing them - 10 years ago. I sit through the sports news in the mornings, but I don't really pay attention. I only go to baseball games to eat cotton candy and make funny faces at toddlers.
I guess this article could be helpful for the woman who feels pressured to "fit in" with men around the office. Maybe I'm in a weird mood today, but I found the "for the ladies" thing a little off putting. There are about as many female sport fans in my life as there are male. If you nixed the "ladies" stuff, this seems like a good post for anyone who is trying to figure out how to talk about sports.
What do you think are good topics for gen y men to know so they can fit in with the ladies around the office? I ask out of genuine curiosity.

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Here are a few of my observtions:
Different people like several different sports, such as football, rugby, basketball, cricket, golf, shooting, pool, darts, car racing, skateboarding, bmx-ing, surfing... so find a sport the other person likes and that you like (or dislike the least) and talk about that. If you hate everything, just pick the other person's favourite sport.
In fact, you don't have to talk, just actively listen while the other person talks and make enthusiastic responses with follow up questions. E.g. "Oh, really!... wow, that's amazing... and then what happened?". You can ask "personal" questions like "What would you have done if you were the referee/coach?". The other person will think you had a great conversation when in fact they did all the talking and you just listened.
Also, once you've talked to one person, just remember one statement they made, turn it into a question and ask another person that later(i.e. have the same conversation but with someone else). E.g. "What did you think of X's tackle in the game last night?" or "I hear team x is gonna be kicked out of the final, what do you think?"
Or if a special event is going on ask "Have you been following the Olympics? What's been your favourite event so far?... I didn't see it but I heard about that Jamaican guy who sprinted really fast..."
When I get stuck for conversation, I just ask someone "what would your dream car be?" or "what car would you get if you had £40,000?". These questions can repeatedly be asked or changed slightly and the answers tend to differ as guys change their minds every day.
People love to give their opinion on things. So ask them questions about these other "guy" topics too: buying/fixing cars/furniture/computer things and DIY/home improvements (plumbing, building).

Oh my. Where to begin? Have you ever had a real job? It doesn't sound like it. Also, it's 2008. Aren't we well past this kind of sexist b.s. already?
Networking and building business relationships is about finding common interests and learning about how you can help each other achieve your respective goals. No part of that involves faking interest and knowledge in a subject matter that holds absolutely no interest for you.
I have a great idea. Why don't you and your all-sports-all-the-time friends spend 15 minutes reading a newspaper or watching the news each day so that you have something interesting and intelligent to say about subjects that do not involve sports? That would be a fun way to "better relate to your female co-workers" and your future female boss so they don't end up thinking you're a total neanderthal who listens to sports radio all day instead of working. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything, but I promise you "that guy" got passed over for the promotion that I got instead. Thanks for the advice, but no thanks.