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Posted On 07.01.08

Last week, in a post, I wrote “I’ve met plenty of poodles* that can hardly talk about anything besides their bags, nails and dog.”

So here is my definition of a poodle. I can’t take credit for this term though. My wonderful mother coined this.

A poodle is: A girl (or guy) that believes that looking good is all they need to do. That is their contribution to society.

A poodle could care less about what’s going on in the world, her job (if she has one), her goals (wait, what are those?), how she earns money (Daddy!), how she pays for things (Oh, you mean, like, my credit card bill that my parents pay?), or anything else besides things that involve helping her (or him) to look good.

Now, let me clarify, there is nothing wrong with looking as good as you can. I’m all for it. In fact, that’s what I help people do. That is my biz. I help people feel and look as good as they can. Because when you feel good, you do good. But the doing good part is the key here.

Also, for some reason, these poodles believe that they are God’s gift to the world. They truly believe that because they are good looking they are better than other people. Fascinating. You do realize that you’re mostly born with your looks. Either you got ‘em or you don’t.

Well, that’s not entirely true. Make-up (and sometimes surgery) does work wonders.

But no big deal, if you don’t have looks. After all, they are just looks. For the most part, you didn’t do anything for them. (Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to look as good as you can or you shouldn’t try to have the best body you can.)

It’s what’s behind those eyes that really matter. Most of these poodles (male and female) have been spoiled silly their entire lives. So they are used to getting whatever it is they want; without working for it.

Which breeds confidence. Getting what you want by working for it (or, not working for it) is one sure way to increase your confidence. After all, that feels incredible. No wonder business moguls, actors and politicians sleep around. They feel like they are on top of the world.

And of course, confidence, and being comfortable in your own skin is by far the sexiest thing in the world. (Precisely why Melania said she is so attracted to The Donald!)

There’s nothing wrong with being born with a silver spoon in your mouth. It’s not your fault. It’s to your advantage, really. The problem with never working for anything though is that you’ve never strived for anything.

And that my friend, is really boring. People always say, “I wish I was a trust fund baby or the people who are given everything will never have to worry about money anyway, so what’s the difference?”

That’s a pretty pathetic way of looking at it. That means all you care about is money? I don’t believe life is about money. Life is about doing what you love. Life is about the journey. Life is about the pursuit. If you have enough courage to find what you love doing (along with some brains) you’ll wind up making a lot of money.

The hugely important difference between poodles and the rest of us are 4 things that can never be bought, no matter how much money your parents give you, that make all the difference in the world:

Strength. Depth. Character. And perspective.

Instead of being a perfect poodle (which is really boring) try being more like a lovable and interesting George!

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Related post by Christine Hassler with awesome comments: Cutting The Financial Cord

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jrandom42
07.01.08

In the IT industry, we call them booth bunnies. I still like Judge Judy's quote,"Beauty fades, dumb is forever."

Liz
07.01.08

I think maybe your post relies a bit on stereotypes that perpetuate the problem. Poodles didn't wake up and say, "All I have to do is be pretty!" as you accuse them of doing. Poodles received constant affirmation of their prettiness and NOTHING ELSE, often with negative comments when they try to do anything more difficult. Sexism plays a huge role in that.

And it comes off as a bit sexist when you act as if the poodles are getting everything they want without having to work for it. The poodles are getting what other people want to give them - that's a pretty big difference.

I do not walk into a coffee shop in the hopes that three guys will interrupt me to talk about the lame soundtrack, but that's often what I get. How does that improve my life? I'd rather be able to walk into an interview and ask for 20 percent more than the offer, without seeing that offended look of, "The cute thing talks! Who does she think she is?" A lot of the time it's just easier to give in and play dumb. Trust me, though, it's not what I want.

Finally, if the pretty pretty poodle is boring you, it's possible you're not seeing her as a separate person, and she knows it. Why should she tell you all about her childhood hopes or her interest in Japanese samurai history, if it's obvious that all you want is to have your buddies see you standing next to her in a bar? You're probably the fifth guy to pull this on her and she can't tell you all what a special, unique person she is. If you're not looking beyond the surface, she may not feel the need to educate you.

Adam Gilbert
07.01.08

@ jrandom42 - "Beauty fades, dumb is forever" is amazing. And so true.

@ Liz - There's a huge difference. You are missing a very important point.

'Poodles' ONLY play up their looks. That's all they care and talk about. There is nothing beyond the surface.

There are plenty of good looking women who are extremely successful. It's the way poodles carry themselves. They act as if their looks are all that matter.

They invite (whether they realize it or not) nothing but shallow people into their lives.

If you're going to play up your appearance, as you should, it's your job to make people realize there's way more to you than your muscles or looks or whatever.

Poodles don't do that.

Adam
07.01.08

Poodles have fully embraced the social construct that is our culture. Look at our obsession with celebrities-- the beautiful people -- most of them aren't doing anything amazing with that celebrity -- they're just going about their daily routine, and we buy tabloids to watch them grocery shop and night club hop.

In reality, poodles acknowledge take advantage, knowingly or unknowingly, of our beauty blinders.

Just looking at the weight component of societ, a recent study showed that discrimination against fat people starts at 13 pounds overweight for women and 68 pounds overweight for men.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/fat-bias-worse-for-women/

zak
07.01.08

I'm not quite awake yet, that should be my name in the above post,
yours should be in the post box prior to my comment.

Adam Gilbert
07.01.08

@ Zak - Maybe I'm not making myself clear.

Celebrities are not poodles. They are celebrities.

I wrote a short post a while back that explains this: http://gurugilbert.com/2007/07/09/why-i-like-paris-and-i%e2%80%99m-not-t...

I'm talking your everyday girl who is not famous, who is not in movies and who isn't on magazine covers - although she ('the poodle') might think she is famous in her own little world...

jrandom42
07.01.08

Had some fun with a poodle who got foisted on me by an executive VP. He wanted her to run the payroll system we had just finished setting up and configuring. Not only did she not listen to directions, she couldn't or wouldn't comprehend the directions that she was supposed to read and practice on the test system first.

When the system got corrupted and the executive VP and the CFO came screaming down to fire me, I told them what happened and had the backing of the entire bookeeping dept.

"You want to know why you aren't getting paid today? It's because of your new protege, who totally corrputed and crashed the new $1.5 million payroll system, by not listening and not comprehending directions she was given. It's going to take us 2 weeks to reconstruct everything, and payroll will have to be done manually until then. Right now, it's YOUR problem for inflicting a clueless bimbo who couldn't even type her name properly!"

Andy W
07.01.08

@Liz - Ohhhh, booooohoooo, being beautiful is SOOOOOO hard...gimme a break - if looks are causing people to underestimate you, you're lucky, that gives you the perfect opportunity to suprise them with your deep intellect and knowledge.

Adam Gilbert
07.01.08

@ jrandom42 - You're on fire today. Hilarious.

@ Andy W - I couldn't agree more!

jrandom42
07.01.08

Got a whole raft of IT stories about dealing with poodles and their leash holders. My wife, the retired cop/firefighter/paramedic who, as big and stunningly beautiful as she is, is probably the poster woman for the anti-poodle. She's got a whole bunch more.

PoodleHater1
07.02.08

Liz, and all other poor poodles... I do agree with you that society plays a role in perhaps perpetuating the stereotype that you seem to be fighting in your life. However, as Adam's post stated, poodles come in the female AND male variety. It sounds like you are running in the circle of your male counterparts who are simply looking for someone who has also been granted God's gift of being incredibly good-looking. It's funny, because I hear alot of my guy friends saying all they want in terms of looks in a girlfriend is someone they're sexually attracted to, because the drop-dead 10's are reduced to 5's when they can't have a meaningful conversation with them.

Tiffany
07.02.08

Great topic! I have a great idea for an article and I will be backtracking this article to reinforce my view.

I have witnessed people being given a position based mostly on looks but it kills me when they beat out someone who was obviously more qualified.

I also think it's cruel to use your parents to pay for things, especially when you have no desire or plan to cut the financial ties.

I mean come on, they birthed you for God's sake, give 'em a break!

Adam Gilbert
07.02.08

@ PoodleHater1 - I couldn't have said it better myself.

@ Tiffany - I look forward to reading it!

Liz
07.02.08

I didn't ask anyone to feel sorry for me; I just said the article's assumptions were flawed. It's like he just wrote something quickly that would appeal to the frat boy types who want to say, "Yeah, I know those dumb bitches!" AND the self-hating girls out there. It's poorly reasoned, and the only way to fill in the gaps is with sexist assumptions about women.

The idea that people benefit from being good looking is hugely overblown. Some things come easy, like crappy jobs at Dairy Queen or "direct marketing" cigarettes in bars. But generally in the working world, the demand for good looks is an EXTRA hurdle imposed on women, in careers such as media talking heads (where the boys don't have to bring the pretty, but the girls get fired for crows feet - which is great when all the good jobs require at least a decade of experience).

And sure, there are people who bought into the pressure and behave (maybe even believe) that all they have to offer is looks. So we should yell at them to shape up? That's like telling an anorexic, "You should eat dummy!" The whole article just comes off as weirdly unsubstantiated, over-simplified and kind of mean-spirited.

Liz
07.02.08

"I have witnessed people being given a position based mostly on looks but it kills me when they beat out someone who was obviously more qualified.'

If that was your point, why wasn't the article yelling at shallow bosses? And isn't that what I just said? That women are often rewarded more for looks than for anything else, and that's a problem for everyone?

Besides, I have been given positions based on looks. Trust me. You didn't want the job. Anyone who cares that little about the quality of the work isn't much of an employer (and btw I have NEVER seen a high-level, prestigious, non-gendered position awarded based on looks).

Liz
07.02.08

"@Liz - Ohhhh, booooohoooo, being beautiful is SOOOOOO hard…gimme a break - if looks are causing people to underestimate you, you’re lucky, that gives you the perfect opportunity to suprise them with your deep intellect and knowledge."

You sound like a winner Andy. I bet the women just don't get that you're really a nice guy and they all only date jerks because they're stupid that way and that's why no one ever goes home with you, the nice, nice, nice guy..

Liz
07.02.08

Finally, I noticed your shout out Adam - "@ Andy W - I couldn’t agree more!"

Yeah. You're definitely a very deep soul and should spend your free time telling us how shallow and stupid we are.

Jerk.

Adam Gilbert
07.02.08

@Liz - It's amazing how defensive you are. I'm a little confused because it doesn't seem like you even read the article or any of the comments.

Let me be clear. There is nothing wrong with being good looking, obviously.

There's plenty of gorgeous women in high power roles.

What bothers me, in my opinion, is how some gorgeous women carry themselves...

That is it.

Andy W
07.02.08

Oh how I love it when I solicit ad hominem attacks from people I don't even know. The warm feeling I get inside from it almost makes up for the fact that I can never pull girls in a bar because they just can't see what a nice guy I am.

jrandom42
07.02.08

I've been railing at the trend over the last few years that emphasize looks, pleasant personality, and political skills over such things as competence, intelligence and hard work. I've had far too many of these poodles, both male and female come through, think all they have to do is look good and connect with the right people to make the new email system work properly.

Some have a modicum of intelligence, common sense and hard work and they can be taught that being good looking may calm down the VP who's not getting his email, but it doesn't do a thing to fix the problem, which is the job they've been hired for.

Others continue blundering on, inflicting the the problems they encounter and cause on the rest of us. I do my best to get them into sales or marketing, where their focus on image can be utilized better.

Ian
07.02.08

When you describe poodle = image of Hilary Banks (Fresh Prince of Bel Air) & Prez Hilton

The difference in depth is probably shown in the above comments & each of the points given.

Although what they lack in depth & perspective, they gain in how to show confidence, knowing when take advantage of a opportunity & demanding for what they want.
Honestly, isn't that a kind of strength & character gain from their looks & environment (just not the humble kind)?

what they might be missing might be endurance/tolerance (Especially to criticisms).
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Let's turn the table/perspective here:
Isn't the way we look at poodle the similar as some boomers & Grayer look at us Gen Ys?
Being lack of work experience, impatient, living with parents(a type of reliance) & entitled for thing/opportunies (instead of earning them/pay dues)

jrandom42
07.02.08

Not in the least, Ian.

Demamding what you want from me doesn't mean you are going to get it, unless I decide you deserve to get it. Thinking I'm automatically just going to give you what you want, just because you're good looking, means you're totally clueless.

Confidence with nothing but good looks to back it up, makes you look like an arrogant fool.

So to sum it up, their "gains" make them nothing more than clueless, arrogant fools, in addition to lacking endurance and tolerance.

In any contest of style and substance (how good things look and how well they work), I'll take substance every time and twice on every other Thursday.

Adam Gilbert
07.02.08

Ian - That's not the 'poodle' I'm talking about, at all.

I wrote it about here: http://gurugilbert.com/2007/07/09/why-i-like-paris-and-i%e2%80%99m-not-t...

If you think about it objectively, part of being a 'celebrity' means you're fascinating to millions of people.

I'm not talk about celebrities. They work for their money, and do their thing.

I'm talking about your 'average' girl (or guy) who thinks he's God's gift to this world.

This 'poodle' doesn't do anything really except try to look good...

The Perez Hilton you're thinking of is not a poodle. He is brilliant at branding. That's how he portrays himself. Same thing with Jessica Simpson.

She is not a poodle. That's part of her gig, if you will...

Ian
07.03.08

I agree that Paris was impressive by follow-up her fame from 4 years ago. The reason for the 2 person up (1 fiction, the other not).

Both start off as the so-call poodle, then took advantage of those assets & evolved.

I was trying to point out that they do have good points that we can't see at face value, ironically.

Ever since there were rich people, these type existed, Shakespeare wrote about it on the shrew.
What do they become when these people get older? Were they able leverage any of those assets?
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@jrandom42
Knowing what you are looking for & then demand it is not a bad skill to have; even though it may annoy alot of people if they looking down at others while doing it. (I'm in my late twenties & all I'm able to do is to ask nicely for what I want, not demand)

Also, Aren't some grayers & boomers bosses look at us & think the same thing as you describe. (Replacing: you're looking good & substance, with: you have a college degree & experience)

Remember we ask/demand for opportunities, promotions, flex-time ...

Depending on perspective these situation can the same or different.

What if we are unconsciencously acting with a smaller version of a similar attitude? Can we do something about it?

Liz
07.03.08

Adam, the way I'm looking at it, you wrote something rather mean spirited, responded quite poorly to a pretty reasonable comment about the assumptions underlying your argument and society's role in rewarding certain behaviors, and then cheered on a "boohooo...." comment directed at me.

I'm sure there are some gorgeous women out there who are boring (god knows there are plenty of ugly ones). But your article comes off like, "Come on girls, work harder!" when you clearly haven't thought things through.

This comes off like another excuse to bash women for supposedly only being about looks, when it doesn't seem to have occurred to you that just because that's all you see or society rewards, in no way proves that's all they are.

You could have written about how some women are denigrated at work for not being "pretty enough" (and that this never happens to a man). You could have written about how society treats women like all they have to offer is looks. There are lots of interesting topics here, and you chose, "Some hot girl bored me! She should shape up! Yeah. They all should..."

Adam Gilbert
07.03.08

Liz - I'm really confused as to why you are so upset and I am truly baffled at your comments. Did you read my post???

First off, I wrote about 'poodles' so telling me what I could have written about is rather silly. Cats meow, dogs bark and I wrote about poodles.

Secondly, your overreacting is like me getting upset every time someone calls a guy with muscles a 'meat head' or 'gym rat'.

Thirdly, if you work and make your own way in life, you're not a 'poodle' as per my post. I thought I was rather clear on my definition.

Finally, I'm really amazed at your comments. Not once did I write about "Some hot girl bored me! She should shape up! Yeah. They all should..."

Seriously, did you read this post?

This is not a post bashing 'hot girls' at all. This is a post about guys/girls who live off their parent's money and don't have jobs who have no character, depth or perspective whatsoever and don't really worry about anything but looking good.

Read the post Liz. Please.

jrandom42
07.03.08

Ian,

You demand something from me and, unless it's required of me, my initial reaction is "Hell, NO! Get out of here before I lay you out with something heavy!"

You ask something from me and show me how and why I would benefit from giving it to you, and we'll talk.

And since I am the CIO, it means I have a little leverage in deciding if and when you get what you want.

Ian
07.03.08

@jrandom42
'Hell No' a completely legit response, especially if they work under/with you.
What if they had the leverage & become you/my boss (through family)? What can be done in such situations?

By knowing how to demanding in a position of power, rather than just ask nicely is a skill. Of course that's not enough, if the people can answer the 'why?' after the demand, then we just won't do it!
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Liz point out the reason why I join in this post: it gave a Vibe of Poodle are good for nothing... , then let's look down at them; I don't believe we should do that either.
Besides they work hard ... on their appearance & value it very much (I think); They found the value & prestige in looking good.

Some people values grades alot & work hard at it; then avoid/look down on others that had bad grades. How is that attitude any different?

I think we all can agree 'just looking good isn't enough'.
Although looking good has it's value, many knows how to exploits it & poodles are just at the pros of that.
(Even though we might not repsect them for it)

jrandom42
07.03.08

Ian, no matter who they are, they still want something that is within my power. I still have the decision of either giving it to them or not, and living with the consequences.

As far as family goes, we've agreed beforehand on what is acceptable to be asked for, and what is not.

As for bosses, the above still applies. I've refused to give in to some bosses' demands, fully knowing they only had the power to fire me.

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