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Posted On 06.19.08

In the 1960s Baby Boomers famously popularized the phrase, “don’t trust anyone over 30.” In general, the Boomers were anti-establishment, and did not want to conform to society’s norms. Trusting anyone over 30 was seen as conforming.

I was recently asked, “If the boomers motto was don’t trust anyone over 30, then what is Generation Y’s motto?”

Without much thought I blurted out, “Get as many people over 30 in your corner as you can. Learn from them. And do it better.”

Gen Y may not be driving around with bumper stickers or wearing pins with this slogan, but if you take a quick tour of the blogosphere you’ll find thousands of Gen Yers discussing things like how to negotiate a salary, how to be productive, how to find a mentor, and how to make work better in general.

We give each other advice and we learn from our peers, but everyone in their twenties is well aware that with age and experience comes wisdom. And if you want that wisdom now, you better embrace the “old folks.”

I genuinely trust people over 30. I trust that they’ve already been through the things that I’m going through. I trust that they’ve hated entry level jobs, they’ve backpacked across Europe, they’ve started companies, and they’ve dealt with the confusion of dating in your twenties. They’ve learned from their failures and successes. I trust that they have all that experience to share and I’m open to learning from them.

This does not mean they did everything the right way. Everyone makes mistakes. But it’s a lot easier to make mistakes if you refuse to listen to anyone who’s been in your shoes. My plan is to listen to everyone and to trust everyone over 30, until they show why they shouldn’t be trusted.

Over the past year I’ve learned valuable life and career lessons from mentors and experienced co-workers, friends and acquaintances. In the past few weeks I’ve learned things like:

1. Patience is a virtue

2. A good manager never stops managing

3. Be yourself 24 hours a day

4. It’s OK if everyone doesn’t like you

5. Business to Business sales can all boil down to 2 things – solving a problem or creating an opportunity

I couldn’t have learned any of these things if my motto was don’t trust anyone over 30. Experience is invaluable. It’s something you just can’t get overnight. But you can learn from those who have it.

Don’t close the door before it’s open. Talk to older people with open ears. After you spend a few minutes talking, you’ll quickly know who to trust and who not to trust. If you start with the thought that you can trust everyone over 30, you can learn some pretty cool stuff in your 20’s.

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Elaine Basham
June 19, 2008 12:33 pm

Amazing how the older I get - the smarter I get ... at least that's what my 20-something children (and their friends) tell me.

As someone who has totally embraced the concept that 50 IS the new 30 (and my generation will certainly make 90 the "new 30"), I love talking with and learning from people under 30 - we have a lot to offer each other.

Thanks for a post that made me smile this morning. Now where's my Geritol ....

GenerationXpert
June 19, 2008 12:57 pm

I think the Millennials are a lot different in their attitudes in their 20s then the Boomers were. Millennials are much more open to the fact that there opinion may not be the only (or correct) position. That is where the real power and strength of your generation lies. You are able to change and evolve quickly (just as the world does today).

Ryan Healy
June 19, 2008 2:24 pm

Thanks for the comments! I agree that 50 is the new 30, but I'm not sure 90 ever will be :)

Millennials do have strong opinions, and we have the tools to make our voices heard, but not many of us are naive enough to think we know everything. For the most part we know what we want, and where we want to go, but everyone needs some guidance to get there.

-Ryan

jrandom42
June 19, 2008 5:31 pm

"Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."

In most industries, even those rife with startups, very little of the information is written down anywhere. Nearly all of it is transmitted orally. It's following the time honored guild method of apprentices and journeymen learning from the masters of the trade. Not only will you get the there-I-was stories, and the lessons learned, but you get insights on how things were designed, and why designs and processes went in a certain direction. Very valueable information.

"Fools say they learn from experience; I prefer to learn from the experience of others.” — Otto von Bismark

"Because what paying dues means, if you make sure to find the right job, is milking the knowledge of others who know more than you, and are willing to pass the torch of their knowledge to you." Mark Smith, Arselickocracy blog

Mark
June 19, 2008 6:10 pm

There's a key point left out of this article. The most important thing they can impart is their network.

The year I have been in the industry I have gained 2 mentors (both in their 50s, and each with 25+ yrs experience). Over all the knowledge gained from these mentors, what I value most is the important people I have met through them. This has led to several opportunities and interviews which I may not have had otherwise.

Erika
June 19, 2008 10:27 pm

I think a lot of this attitude, not trusting people over 30, stems from a fear of portraying weakness. If we (gen Y admit there are things we don't know, then we're automatically the young, foolish people we're afraid of being. Our culture derides the inexperienced so it's not surprising to find this perspective everywhere.

I agree, however, that it's necessary to admit that you don't know everything. Someone once said to me, "You're still young and have lots to learn" to which I replied, "Thank goodness for that!"

Presh
June 20, 2008 6:05 am

Great point Ryan. We spend so much time trying to invent ourselves when there are more experienced people us with the answers. There's no need to reinvent the wheel.

Peter
June 20, 2008 7:05 am

Yes, listen to the advice of people older than 30 and evaluate and test it out for yourself.

However, they are unlikely to know about a new career model called the "ideal career," which is based on passion, talent and values.

And it's not their fault. It's just that the old career model is not aligned with people's longing, today, to have a natural or ideal career.

I wrote a report on the ideal if you're interested, it's at www.idealcareerframework.com (scroll down and use the password "idealcareerisideal."

Katie
August 1, 2008 11:39 am

Good job coming up with a slogan topic for our generation. How about "Learn & Revise" for a shorter slogan? Although if anyone could think of something rhymning or with alliteration, you win at life.

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